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Footy media , love’m or hate’ m ?

Mr Brightside

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I don’t have a lot of love or respect for the majority of the footy media, personally think most of them are just gossip columnists with not a great deal of footy nous. How bad is the industry going when Mark Robinson is the number 1 journo :rotfl1 , there would not be a sport in the world that has a “ Robbo” in their top 100 journos, geez even the tidley wink tour of the Galápagos Islands has better journos. Barret oh golly gosh his another of the top journos , then we have Jon Ralph , baby Jesus is starting to cry .

I find a lot of the young up an comers start of ok , however after a year or 2 seem to have this new found entitlement and become arrogant pigs like the others.

I definitely prefer the ex players , generally better knowledge and are much more humble, I don’t mind Caro, takes no *smile*, Sam Edmond seems good.

Though the US sports have there normal yankee cockiness, I find their journos , much more educated and sell a story much better.

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The Big Richo

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I think our game gets great coverage that stacks up pretty well with other things I've seen around the world.

What always amazes me is just how personally punters take the journos views and how emotional they get in response.
 
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Jetboy

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One, of the many, things that irks me about todays media is the “non commentary “ of games......
most of the games callers all seem to think they are experts, they all seem to know a teams weakness, they all know why certain things happen in a game, they even know what players are thinking and saying........
when these experts all start talking over each other, then start crapping on about a piece of play that has just happened, then tell us the life story of a player that has just touched the ball, then try to put their own spin on the whole thing by using hindsight, then try and promote their superior knowledge about anything........the ball has travelled from coast to coast, with a few important pieces of play, and a few very good individual pieces of play thrown in, but unless you were actually watching it, you wouldnt know....

To illustrate what I mean, just watch a game on TV with your eyes shut, and no s**t, you wouldn’t know where the ball was, who had a possession (unless it’s one of their favourites)......

add this to watching footage of a player going into the rooms, while the so called experts are giving us the expert medical assessment, whilst the Tigers are making a play is infuriating

Go back and watch games from the 70s and 80s, and the commentators do just that, commentate!!!.....Not like these clowns we have now, whos egos are bigger than Ben Hur
 
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TigerMasochist

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Much preferred it when games had two callers n one expert comments. Now there's half a dozen or more talking over one another trying to out opinionate everyone and then unfortunately there's a token female in most media teams that often either has very limited knowledge of what's going on or can't get a word in edgewise for all the blathering done by the experts.
Most pathetic of all are the controversial expert former players on the after game shows that sink the slipper into players or teams that may be struggling for a couple of weeks with form or injury issues.
Most games that I watch on t.v. the first thing that goes way down is the volume button.
 
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RedanTiger

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Much preferred it when games had two callers n one expert comments. Now there's half a dozen or more talking over one another trying to out opinionate everyone and then unfortunately there's a token female in most media teams that often either has very limited knowledge of what's going on or can't get a word in edgewise for all the blathering done by the experts.
Most pathetic of all are the controversial expert former players on the after game shows that sink the slipper into players or teams that may be struggling for a couple of weeks with form or injury issues.
Most games that I watch on t.v. the first thing that goes way down is the volume button.
It 's wise to always take note of the fact that ALL the media have a conflict of interest.
They are only able to work due to the AFL (and to a lesser extent clubs) allowing them access.
 

22nd Man

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One, of the many, things that irks me about todays media is the “non commentary “ of games......
most of the games callers all seem to think they are experts, they all seem to know a teams weakness, they all know why certain things happen in a game, they even know what players are thinking and saying........
when these experts all start talking over each other, then start crapping on about a piece of play that has just happened, then tell us the life story of a player that has just touched the ball, then try to put their own spin on the whole thing by using hindsight, then try and promote their superior knowledge about anything........the ball has travelled from coast to coast, with a few important pieces of play, and a few very good individual pieces of play thrown in, but unless you were actually watching it, you wouldnt know....

To illustrate what I mean, just watch a game on TV with your eyes shut, and no s**t, you wouldn’t know where the ball was, who had a possession (unless it’s one of their favourites)......

add this to watching footage of a player going into the rooms, while the so called experts are giving us the expert medical assessment, whilst the Tigers are making a play is infuriating

Go back and watch games from the 70s and 80s, and the commentators do just that, commentate!!!.....Not like these clowns we have now, whos egos are bigger than Ben Hur
What irritates me in game calling is how they feel the need to eulogise the gun players every possession they get. Ling is the prime but far from only example.
Just describe the game ...at the end of it tell us the best players why the game was won etc and move on.
 

The Big Richo

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One, of the many, things that irks me about todays media is the “non commentary “ of games......

Isn't that just because you are watching the game on TV and the commentary has evolved away from the radio style of call?

If you listen to someone who calls TV and radio they use very different styles. I always thought footy commentary was trying to move more to the TV cricket style which has always been a better coverage. The old Richie Benaud principle of never saying what the viewer can see.
 

22nd Man

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It 's wise to always take note of the fact that ALL the media have a conflict of interest.
They are only able to work due to the AFL (and to a lesser extent clubs) allowing them access.
Do ther sports have accredited journalists like AFL?
What if a journo doesn't want to be , does Afl sanction their media outlet?
 

The Big Richo

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Do ther sports have accredited journalists like AFL?
What if a journo doesn't want to be , does Afl sanction their media outlet?

You don't have to be an accredited journo to report on the AFL. You need accreditation to be able to attend media conferences etc and your organisation needs to have the correct accreditation to use footage or photos etc but anyone can write anything they like about the game.

In my experience that's pretty similar to most professional sports.
 
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scottyturnerscurse

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Isn't that just because you are watching the game on TV and the commentary has evolved away from the radio style of call?

If you listen to someone who calls TV and radio they use very different styles. I always thought footy commentary was trying to move more to the TV cricket style which has always been a better coverage. The old Richie Benaud principle of never saying what the viewer can see.

I think Benaud got that instruction from Kerry Packer at the start of World Series cricket.
 
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Ian4

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Much preferred it when games had two callers n one expert comments. Now there's half a dozen or more talking over one another trying to out opinionate everyone and then unfortunately there's a token female in most media teams that often either has very limited knowledge of what's going on or can't get a word in edgewise for all the blathering done by the experts.

as the say in the classics, Keep It Simple Stupid. call the game without saying the Captain Obvious sh!t. World Game/Sokkah commentators are the best at it. and they usually go with 1 x caller and 1 x expert commentator. Simon Hill is the best sports commentator in the country by the length of the Flemington straight.
 
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Baloo

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My biggest gripe is the media today tries to drive the agenda of a week. Whether it's a type of freekick, type of tackle, or whatever, they all rush to make something a bigger deal than it is. If they're lucky the rest of the media types latch onto it and before you know it something innocuous becomes as massive deal, often to the determent of the player.

Think Cotch's lunge for the ball in the 2017 Prelim. That was media driven searching for a major talking point leading up to the GF
 

tigertim

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I think Benaud got that instruction from Kerry Packer at the start of World Series cricket.
But there's also the story when WSC first went to air and Packer was watching but Benaud wasn't commentating, there was just lots of silence. He rang Richie and Richie said he wasn't going to change his style:

"In Richie, Benaud's old confrere Bill Lawry recalls their boss's telephoned complaints during an early WSC fixture: He informed us in very clear terms that this was not the BBC, most of the people watching didn't have a clue about cricket, and we were supposed to be telling them what was going on.

Richie wasn't going to change or in any way dilute the commentary lessons he lived by: you only spoke if you could add to the pictures. So the next over was again virtually word-free. After that, I thought keeping Kerry onside was a bit more important, so I started rattling on. The pattern sort of stuck. Indeed it did."
 
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