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Full forwards...past and present

just one more interesting point. total scoring shots in a season that is goals behinds.whilst there is no record for hudson he always used it well and his behind percentage would have been low imo. the most locket ever had in a season was 132 goals 58 behinds for 190 scoring shots.
dunstall one yr had 145 goals 84 behinds he had 138 76 and 132 66. phenominal effort that. sumich as far as i can see is the only other player to have 200 or more scoring shots in a season with 200. 111/89.
i suppose hudson and pratt would be near or past the 200 mark having kicked 150 goals and in hudsons case 146 as well.
 
the claw said:
dunstall one yr had 145 goals 84 behinds he had 138 76 and 132 66. phenominal effort that.
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I think that was just against Richmond.

First glamour full-forward might have been John Coleman - supporters used to gather at the end at which he was playing (just like they do with Jay schulz).
 
the claw said:
lockett didnt miis 5 yrs in the prime of his career. hudson came back at age 31 after playing just 4 games in 5 yrs of footy at vfl level and still kicked a ton. his 1978 and 1979 in tassie showed he should have kept going. i have no doubt he would have kicked 100 goals at vfl both yrs if the knee held up.

clearly between the ages of 25 to 30 was locketts most productive period of his career. a period denied to hudson.to this day huddo along with baldock remain the most underrated footballer in history except by tasmanians of course.
plugga should have remained retired at the end of 1999 he came back for 3 games in 02.

by the way tassie footy in the 70s was still a good standard then.

pratt in 1934 averaged 7.1 goals per game the yr he kicked 150. lockett averaged 7.5 in 1991 kicking 127.i think these two are the only ones to average 7 in a season.
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Lockets goal per game peak was actually from the age of 21-26 roughly the same period when Hudson played pre knee hence my comparison. Like Hudson Locket kicked a tonne at age 31 (and 33). Like Hudson he missed a lot of footy, 6 seasons in mid career where he played 12 games or less.

I don't think Hudson is underated he is rightly rated with Locket as the best of all time in my book just ahead of Coleman and Pratt although Pratts 150 year would have to be rated the best season by a FF.

Two things counting for Locket when looking at career numbers. He played in crap sides for much of his career and had to deal with octopus full backs that Hudson was spared. I can't split them.

Having played footy in Tassie, WA and Vic I won't buy into the standard arguments other than to say ............. your breeding is showing. Baldock is not underated either, he was a freak and probably the best to come from Tasmania. His ability to blind turn out of pack and bounce the ball in a pond at Morabbin oval was a skill never replicated by any other player in the history of the game and probably contravened the laws of physics.
 
Bill James said:
Lockets goal per game peak was actually from the age of 21-26 roughly the same period when Hudson played pre knee hence my comparison. Like Hudson Locket kicked a tonne at age 31 (and 33). Like Hudson he missed a lot of footy, 6 seasons in mid career where he played 12 games or less.

I don't think Hudson is underated he is rightly rated with Locket as the best of all time in my book just ahead of Coleman and Pratt although Pratts 150 year would have to be rated the best season by a FF.

Two things counting for Locket when looking at career numbers. He played in crap sides for much of his career and had to deal with octopus full backs that Hudson was spared. I can't split them.

Having played footy in Tassie, WA and Vic I won't buy into the standard arguments other than to say ............. your breeding is showing. Baldock is not underated either, he was a freak and probably the best to come from Tasmania. His ability to blind turn out of pack and bounce the ball in a pond at Morabbin oval was a skill never replicated by any other player in the history of the game and probably contravened the laws of physics.
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Lucky for Baldock he never studied physics
 
the claw said:
just one more interesting point. total scoring shots in a season that is goals behinds.whilst there is no record for hudson he always used it well and his behind percentage would have been low imo.
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Hudson

1967  57.49
1968 125.62
1969 120.39
1970 146.44
1971 150.72
1972    8.1
1973    8.3
1974    3.4
1977 110.50
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        727.324 (69%)
 
Bill James said:
I don't think Hudson is underated he is rightly rated with Locket as the best of all time in my book just ahead of Coleman and Pratt although Pratts 150 year would have to be rated the best season by a FF.
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Coleman was FF in the team of the century. FWIW I think Hudson is underrated I don't hear him mentioned very often in discussions of the best FF ever.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Hudson

1967 57.49
1968 125.62
1969 120.39
1970 146.44
1971 150.72
1972 8.1
1973 8.3
1974 3.4
1977 110.50
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727.324 (69%)
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Bloody hell. He kicked 266.83 in 69-70.

Thats some damn accurate kicking. Buddy kicked 113.88 last year.

Bring back the flat punt. ;D
 
Leysy Days said:
Bloody hell. He kicked 266.83 in 69-70.

Thats some damn accurate kicking. Buddy kicked 113.88 last year.

Bring back the flat punt. ;D
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He woudl have wobbled most of them in from less than 30 metres out.

There is an old golf story about the pro golfer who was going thru the putting yips. He sought out a putting guru who agreed to help him. So the guru watched him play a couple of rounds to see what his problem was.

Then he took him onto a practice green and made him practise his chipping for a week. The pro was bemused, wondering how the hell this was going to help and when would he start practising his putting, which obviously needed work? Finally, he asked him: "I wanted you to help me with my putting, why have you got me practising my chipping?"

"Because, son, its a good deal easier to sink a putt when you are three feet from the hole than it is to nail it from 30 metres."

Most AFL forwards these days are athletic and love to run. Maybe their kicking for goal would improve if they went on shorter leads and stayed nearer the goal?
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Hudson

1967 57.49
1968 125.62
1969 120.39
1970 146.44
1971 150.72
1972 8.1
1973 8.3
1974 3.4
1977 110.50
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727.324 (69%)
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Locket was 70.1% not counting first four seasons where I can't find behinds.
 
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