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Game Day - Richmond vs Brisbane - QF 2020

BT Tiger

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Now I've had a couple of days to digest I think we're still well placed for a tilt. Lynch back is the most important piece of our structure these days and that was evident with how little we managed to score from out fwd 50 entries. Lynch making Andrews more accountable completely changes the dynamic of our forward line.

I'd also be moving Balta to part time ruck duties to chop out Nank. Chol is clearly not up to it and should be traded at the end of the year. Balta at least had the leap to be semi competitive with the big lugs.
 
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bairdy380

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No way did we neutralise the aerial contest to give our smalls a chance. Brisbane dismissed Chol and either marked or punches long and wide to the boundary.

To the eye it was the most we have been outplayed in this area all year.

Andrews was also dominant. BOG. Not sure how you or anyone can downplay his impact. It was where the game was lost
And the man punches it a good 10m+ clear
 
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frickenel

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Normally wouldn't be overly fussed about having the pre finals bye plus another before the prelim ( although I do think the pre finals break advantages the lower four teams ). Biggest concern for me this year is the lack of overall game time for some of our core seniors. Not having the extra prelim break this year should be beneficial for the likes of Presty, Nank, Shedda, *smile* n Bash who've all had interrupted seasons this year n not much lead in game time before the finals.
Ya can fudge one maybe two players who might be a tad rusty through a finals series. No way can ya fudge 25% of the team through.
Exactly.

I posted basically the same thing yesterday. I really think this will be a blessing in disguise.

Yes, the opposition have been shown we're beatable, but more importantly we've been shown that we have to hunt, and hunt like our lives depend on it, which it does. I think that's when we are at our best.
 
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Harry

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Re watched the game and it was clear the absence of Lynch and dominance of Andrews affected our mids and backs. They were quite indecisive with their delivery and weren't quick and direct as they usually are. Lynch has played 42 games straight since being recruited and our system and fwd 50 entries have been heavily reliant on his presence.

Also thought hipwood caused us alot of issues. Not sure who his man was but broad has kept him very quiet in the past.
 
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jb03

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Re watched the game and it was clear the absence of Lynch and dominance of Andrews affected our mids and backs. They were quite indecisive with their delivery and weren't quick and direct as they usually are. Lynch has played 42 games straight since being recruited and our system and fwd 50 entries have been heavily reliant on his presence.

Also thought hipwood caused us alot of issues. Not sure who his man was but broad has kept him very quiet in the past.
Hard to tell watching from the TV but the backs seem to mix n match. If pushed though perhaps Balta was on Hipwood? Not sure who was on Cameron when he kicked the goal from the boundary throw in but his opponent was 10 metres behind him as he charged.
 
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Harry

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Hard to tell watching from the TV but the backs seem to mix n match. If pushed though perhaps Balta was on Hipwood? Not sure who was on Cameron when he kicked the goal from the boundary throw in but his opponent was 10 metres behind him as he charged.
Short was on Cameron for that one. Grimes was on the bench. For his other goal where raynor gave him the assist, grimes actually left him to provide a spoil but didn't kill the contest and cameron got free.
 
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daniel30

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Watching over the highlights again one thing that hasn't been mentioned much is our poor delivery in our forward line, time and time again just bombing it long and Andrews had a picnic and the rest of the defence.With or without Lynch we're just giving the footy away.
 
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MD Jazz

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Fascinated to know how they stopped our intercept marking and rebound from D50.

Grimes, Houli and Baker having no influence in the 2nd half is amazing.

Maybe they were happy for Short and Balta to have it (as they generally use it long) and backed themselves to defend the long high kick knowing they had us covered aerially?
 
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TigerMasochist

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Fascinated to know how they stopped our intercept marking and rebound from D50.

Grimes, Houli and Baker having no influence in the 2nd half is amazing.

Maybe they were happy for Short and Balta to have it (as they generally use it long) and backed themselves to defend the long high kick knowing they had us covered aerially?
*smile* forward entries from our mids n running backs meant our forwards failed to bring the ball to ground n lock in far too often, resulting on easy unpressured rebound from their defensive half to their mids n forwards. Means they were able to spread n cherry pick their options far to easily, often getting the one out contests or loose players forward n dismantling our usual defensive systems.
 
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waiting

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Fascinated to know how they stopped our intercept marking and rebound from D50.

Grimes, Houli and Baker having no influence in the 2nd half is amazing.

Maybe they were happy for Short and Balta to have it (as they generally use it long) and backed themselves to defend the long high kick knowing they had us covered aerially?
The lack of or refusal of lowering the eyes and working through the Lions defensive structure & Andrews is still a concern.

Dave continually kicking down the line and slowing us can be somewhat frustrating as we had no one really for that kick without Lynch and no Soldo.

Hopefully that will be rectified Friday night.
 

Bill Haverchuck

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BRISBANE v RICHMOND

10 Daniel Rich (BL)
6 Charlie Cameron (BL)
6 Harris Andrews (BL)
6 Hugh McCluggage (BL)
2 Jarryd Lyons (BL)
 

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BRISBANE v RICHMOND

10 Daniel Rich (BL)
6 Charlie Cameron (BL)
6 Harris Andrews (BL)
6 Hugh McCluggage (BL)
2 Jarryd Lyons (BL)
Not one Tiger worthy of a vote out of 30 votes in a 15 point loss.
 
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eZyT

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Not one Tiger worthy of a vote out of 30 votes in a 15 point loss.

Its a very good sign.

Reiterates that they had a heap of good players, we had none,

And could have pinched it.

If we can barge our way into a gf, against the most likely opponent,

I would be outrageously confident
 
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The Big Richo

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No way did we neutralise the aerial contest to give our smalls a chance. Brisbane dismissed Chol and either marked or punches long and wide to the boundary.

To the eye it was the most we have been outplayed in this area all year.

Andrews was also dominant. BOG. Not sure how you or anyone can downplay his impact. It was where the game was lost

We're not necessarily arguing opposite positions here.

With Lynch out we were really looking for a COVID normal style of game, not our ideal, but enough to get us by.

For me that COVID normal will have been based around accepting Andrews was going to be a very good player but to try and minimise his influence by restricting MOPs and forcing him to spoil.

Chol's job will have been to try and engage him as much as possible to prevent MOPs and get us forward stoppage by making him bring the ball to ground or to the boundary.

So I think every time he punched the ball away we would have considered it a win. We wouldn't with Lynch but in COVID normal it was ok. My verdict of Chol being ok, is based around Andrew's playing a very good game but not taking huge MOP numbers. I think we would have considered that break even before the game and I suspect Hardwick only gave him 2 votes because of it.

I'd be interested to hear the coaches analysis but my take is we executed our COVID normal ok to the point where the ball was brought to ground but we failed to back it up by winning the forward 50 contested ball at the subsequent contests and stoppages.

Not one Tiger worthy of a vote out of 30 votes in a 15 point loss.

Could Hardwick be part of the AFL/Umpires/Media Richmond hate club?
 

Smoking Aces

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We're not necessarily arguing opposite positions here.

With Lynch out we were really looking for a COVID normal style of game, not our ideal, but enough to get us by.

For me that COVID normal will have been based around accepting Andrews was going to be a very good player but to try and minimise his influence by restricting MOPs and forcing him to spoil.

Chol's job will have been to try and engage him as much as possible to prevent MOPs and get us forward stoppage by making him bring the ball to ground or to the boundary.

So I think every time he punched the ball away we would have considered it a win. We wouldn't with Lynch but in COVID normal it was ok. My verdict of Chol being ok, is based around Andrew's playing a very good game but not taking huge MOP numbers. I think we would have considered that break even before the game and I suspect Hardwick only gave him 2 votes because of it.

I'd be interested to hear the coaches analysis but my take is we executed our COVID normal ok to the point where the ball was brought to ground but we failed to back it up by winning the forward 50 contested ball at the subsequent contests and stoppages.



Could Hardwick be part of the AFL/Umpires/Media Richmond hate club?
COVID Normal?
Is that you Dan Andrews?
 
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Ridley

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Not one Tiger worthy of a vote out of 30 votes in a 15 point loss.
It’s probably fair enough in this instance. Can’t think of any Richmond players that played better than those Brisbane players. Dusty was great in first half but virtually unsighted after half time.

That said we had few good players and lost by 15 points. Huge upside if we can get some blokes to pull their fingers out.
 
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