Game Day - Tiges v Saints (merged)

[Redford]

And to the esteemed Redford who fancies himself an astute judge and said he'd rather have Mcguane, Hall or anyone other than Gaspar - well ........................................... :  Didn't see any great run or footskills coming out of defence either!

Oh yeah. As an "astute judge" yourself (who reckons Subpar is a great kick and that we were "close" against Melbourne), I have to agree with you on this one: Subpar is worth 100 points to us. No doubt about it.

I'm glad you brought up the Melbourne game, Red.  We were flogged just as badly out of the middle in that game but two big differences.

Melbourne game we lost by only 18 points and Neitz kicked 0 goals. 

St Kilda game we lost by over a hundred points and Gehrig kicked 10 goals. 

I know you're not the sharpest tool in the shed but do the maths (try your best anyway)

Well I'd rather be a tool in the shed than just a plain tool because your excuse making is just phenomanal Lambpoon !

But firstly, you wanna refer a 100 point loss to the fact Subpar wasn't out there on Saturday ? Fine. Go away and come back and tell me who the full back for us was in the 100 point loss to the Bulldogs. Who was it ? Oh yeah...it was that guy who gave up on several occassions, refusing to chase, turnovers etc. That guy. Forget his name now but there was about 10 pages on him on PRE at the time and heaps of media articles etc.  You have a magnificent penchant for putting your foot in it don't you Lambpoon ? ! I tell you, you've gotta give up on all that Fanta your drinking Lambpoon. Too much sugar. Too much artificial colouring. Its not doing your judgement any good.

If 've already said (if you remember) that Subpar had a good game against Neitz. But of course 1) you don't have a very good memory and 2) you find one good game in amongst a number of them as being acceptable, so there's no point arguing.

Anyway, in terms of trying to compare the St.Kilda defensive effort v the Melbourne one, was the St.Kilda game a stop/start chipping game like the Melbourne game ? Did the ball come into our defensive half in the same 'chip inwards' style or did the attack by St.Kilda have more frequency and greater speed to it ? Anyone ?

Maths ? You wanna talk about maths ? Hah hah hah...that's rich coming from a mathamatical genius who once tried to compare Subpar's menial 30+ shots at goal as a sample against full forwards with 100's and 100's of shots on goal as their sample. I guess your abacus wasn't working too well that day Lambpoon !

Keep 'em coming Lambpoon ! I love it when you "try your best" !  :hihi

 

[lamb22]

Red, you dont need a multi paragraph reply.  You said you prefer Hall or anyone in preference to Gaspar.  Your comment was silly then and in the space of less than a week was proven to be ridiculous.

You were wrong, I know it, you know it, the knowledgable posters now it - your only ally in this argument is probably Rayzorwire and I dont think he even loves big Ray that much!

Cheers ;D

PS In 480 minutes of football Gaspar held Tredrea, Tarrant, Neitz and Hall to a grand total of 3 goals. (For the mathematically challenged that's one goal every 160 minutes).

In 120 minutes of football 'Hall and anyone' kept Fraser Gehrig to 10 goals (Red, that's one goal every 12 minutes).  Case closed !

I'll give you one thing though - dont think Luke could have done much worse .

 

[GoodOne]

Red, you dont need a multi paragraph reply.  You said you prefer Hall or anyone in preference to Gaspar.  Your comment was silly then and in the space of less than a week was proven to be ridiculous.

You were wrong, I know it, you know it, the knowledgable posters now it - your only ally in this argument is probably Rayzorwire and I dont think he even loves big Ray that much!

Cheers ;D

Gaspar definitely a better backman than Hall. Arguing this is almost beyond ridicule. Even Rayzorwire admits he would prefer to see Hall up the ground. Personally Id prefer to see him off the ground.

 

[Redford]

Red, you dont need a multi paragraph reply.  You said you prefer Hall or anyone in preference to Gaspar.  Your comment was silly then and in the space of less than a week was proven to be ridiculous.

You were wrong, I know it, you know it, the knowledgable posters now it - your only ally in this argument is probably Rayzorwire and I dont think he even loves big Ray that much!

Cheers ;D

Hah hah ...that is how silly you are. What on earth in the space of one week is there to suggest that Subpar going forward is a better option than Gumpus (or a number of others) given that Subpar has more negatives compared to him than those others - namely age, lack of application, pathetic skill level, lack of pace etc. etc. At least guys like Gumpus (as much as I see him as the lessser of 2 evils) will have a crack and has infinitely more flexibility than the dis-interested Subpar. And besides, as I said, I'll take ANYONE over playing Subpar next year - not just Gumpus who you seem pre-occupied with. I'll take Thursfield, McGuane, shifting Schulz back there, a new recruit....WHATEVER it takes to upskill the position the unskilled Subpar has occupied at this football club.

And in the case of Gumpus specifically, don't give me any garbage about Gumpus being involved in a 100 point loss to defend your argument because Subpar has been involved in SEVERAL of those during his career. In fact, if you go back and have a look at RFC's defensive record since Subpar has been at Richmond, you'll find that he has been party to one of, if not THE worst record in the AFL.

No point in trying to defend ongoing mediocrity Lambpoon.

And come season's end, I think you are going find that TW quite rightly sees Subpar as part of the problem and not the solution.

Next thing you and WrongOne will be trying to tell us all is that Krakouer is having a good season...... :

 

[mb64]

i thinks that promising news with Hall in for kellaway and stafford for krackour as a 2nd ruck/tall timber in square

Hall is nowhere near the quality of Chubba imo.

Staff for Krak, well they are both very ordinary players imo.

Staff's last chance if you ask me, if he doesnt play well today then he shouldnt be given another game.

would rather have stafford in my team the the derelict chafey

I'd put in a trainer ahead of Stafford.Has been useless for us & somehow keeps getting back in the side.

 

[lamb22]

Hah hah ...that is how silly you are. What on earth in the space of one week is there to suggest that Subpar going forward is a better option than Gumpus (or a number of others) given that Subpar has more negatives compared to him than those others - namely age, lack of application, pathetic skill level, lack of pace etc. etc. At least guys like Gumpus (as much as I see him as the lessser of 2 evils) will have a crack and has infinitely more flexibility than the dis-interested Subpar. And besides, as I said, I'll take ANYONE over playing Subpar next year - not just Gumpus who you seem pre-occupied with. I'll take Thursfield, McGuane, shifting Schulz back there, a new recruit....WHATEVER it takes to upskill the position the unskilled Subpar has occupied at this football club.

Liar liar pants on fire - this is what you said verbatim in the "changes for St kilda game" thread:

"Well Krakouer is a regular request to be replaced so outside of him, I'd like to see McGuane come in for Gaspar. Or if he's fit, Gumpus.

Geez, come to think of it I'll take anyone as a replacement for Gaspar. "

So we were talking about last week, not list management issues - stop waving your arms about so much you are just sinking deeper and deeper........

Cut your losses and admit you were wrong......................................again ;D

 

[Tigers of Old]

Does anyone know why we don't play the teams in the same order as we played them first time around?

 

[Redford]

Hah hah ...that is how silly you are. What on earth in the space of one week is there to suggest that Subpar going forward is a better option than Gumpus (or a number of others) given that Subpar has more negatives compared to him than those others - namely age, lack of application, pathetic skill level, lack of pace etc. etc. At least guys like Gumpus (as much as I see him as the lessser of 2 evils) will have a crack and has infinitely more flexibility than the dis-interested Subpar. And besides, as I said, I'll take ANYONE over playing Subpar next year - not just Gumpus who you seem pre-occupied with. I'll take Thursfield, McGuane, shifting Schulz back there, a new recruit....WHATEVER it takes to upskill the position the unskilled Subpar has occupied at this football club.

Liar liar pants on fire - this is what you said verbatim in the "changes for St kilda game" thread:

"Well Krakouer is a regular request to be replaced so outside of him, I'd like to see McGuane come in for Gaspar. Or if he's fit, Gumpus.

Geez, come to think of it I'll take anyone as a replacement for Gaspar. "

So we were talking about last week, not list management issues - stop waving your arms about so much you are just sinking deeper and deeper........

Cut your losses and admit you were wrong......................................again ;D

Where have I ever said that I WOULDN'T take anyone over Subpar ? Are you on drugs Lambpoon or is it just the Fanta again ? Where have I said anything to the contrary of that original statement ? Again, the Fanta is getting to you pal. You're struggling so badly you're now making things up in your own mind !  ;D

I'll easily stick with my stance of anyone over Subpar. I'm not persuaded by one "non-appearance" of Subpar. If we win next week and Subpar doesn't play, are you gonna re-visit this thread ? I doubt it.

But anyway, you are trying to tell me that because Subpar didn't play in that horrendous loss that that's a vindication of Subpar ! ? Hah hah hah....that is so hapless it borders on insane because as I've said to you several times now (and you keep conveniently dodging), how does that explain Subpar's participation in countless floggings over the years ? And just as an example of how badly you're struggling, I'll turn it around on you and say that because Gumpus didn't play in round 1 and Subpar did, we wouldn't have got a 100 point flogging if the opposite was the case !! Hah hah hah......c'mon Lambpoon. You can do better than that can't you ? !

Give it up Lambpoon. Everyone knows that Subpar is NOT part of the solution. Subpar is, and always has been, part of the problem. It all over for him. You're letting your blind optimism cloud your judgement.

(BTW, I know relatively speaking that you're a bit of a pup on PRE, but a tip is not to directly claim right/wrong stances because besides lacking class, its pretty much an admission that you're struggling yourself. A bit like when a kid in a schoolyard argument goes "nah nah nah...I can't hear you...I can't hear you." You know what I mean ?)

 

[DragaTheCro]

I'll take Gaspar over Hall any day. Hall has to go at seasons end

 

[lamb22]

Red no matter how many red herrings you want to throw into this debate you cant run away from your statement and the (non)sense of that statement was made evident on the weekend.

 

[Redford]

Red no matter how many red herrings you want to throw into this debate you cant run away from your statement and the (non)sense of that statement was made evident on the weekend.

And Lambpoon, you can't run away from your acceptance of mediocrity i.e. just blindly plundering on with Subpar as the full back of the Richmond Football Club.

 

[lamb22]

I'm just rationale Red and believe we should play our best full back at full back. When we have a better option Gas can be replaced.