Game Plan - Rough Analogy From Basketball

[Smilodon]

This is one for the more philosophical posters:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/11/090511fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all

Poses a few good questions like:

* Is the rarer quality really effort rather than talent?
* Are you prepared to win rather than observe the forms? (Think about Roos ruining football and winning a Grand Final.)
* Are we meeting the strengths of our opponents with our weaknesses or our strengths?

 

[pahoffm]

Great pick up.

Well done!

 

[ozserpico66]

It should be plastered all over the walls at Punt Road.

"EFFORT BEATS TALENT"

 

[Djevv]

Great article. I have a 12yo daughter who plays basketball in an ordinary team so I learnt a bit! Must say I thought of the Roos gameplan when I read it. Theres a lesson there for team of underskilled players like those from RFC I do believe.

 

[Tango]

great article
it should be more than plastered
quite frankly it sums us up, we run back when we dont have the ball and let the team attack us in their own time without pressure (flooding) they use their well practised drills and superior skill and chop us up, we get the ball and dont have the skill to execute the same game - DUMB

time to chop the veterans and start agin with team orientated players, full court press and pressure all around the ground at all times,
simple plan
1. stop the opponent getting inside our defensive 50 as much as possible
2. get the ball inside our fwd 50 as often as possible

 

[TigerArmySoldier01]

I was thinking of our game against adelaide a couple of years back.

Very interesting read! But the tactics in AFL are ever evolving... atm its the rolling zone, there was the flood, pagans paddock, geelong's high disposal game, the old fashioned kick it long.

wats the next unconventional method to be used??? who knows! But how long before some1 comes up with a strategy to beat it??? a month at best me thinks!

The legs beating arms.... made me think more of the sydney game plan, they play to their strengths

Not sure if any1 noticed late in the game, they isolated possibly their best player adam goodes against his opponent (polo at the time) at the feet of the ruckman from the boundary throw ins in their forward line.

When the ball is down our forward line.... play to their strength... strength in numbers and closing down the play.

When in their forward half.... get their best player to try and beat his direct opponent. Lucky for us polo was up to the task!
But good tactics none the less!

 

[TOT70]

Nice bit of fantasy.

I've been coaching under-age Basketball teams for nearly 30 years and have seen and used the old "full court press tactic" throughout that time. It's a nice shock tactic and will get the occasional result, esp if used sparingly. To suggest that an undersized and underskilled team could use it to beat highly-credentialled teams week-in, week-out is as believable as suggesting that the Bangladesh Cricket team could climb to the top of the Cricket tree by bowling under-arm. As the "coach" pointed out himself, if the talent disparity was as wide as claimed, the opposition would simply do it back to them, sit back and have a good laugh.

Nice article though. The point was well made.

 

[Mac]

Nice bit of fantasy.

I've been coaching under-age Basketball teams for nearly 30 years and have seen and used the old "full court press tactic" throughout that time. It's a nice shock tactic and will get the occasional result, esp if used sparingly. To suggest that an undersized and underskilled team could use it to beat highly-credentialled teams week-in, week-out is as believable as suggesting that the Bangladesh Cricket team could climb to the top of the Cricket tree by bowling under-arm. As the "coach" pointed out himself, if the talent disparity was as wide as claimed, the opposition would simply do it back to them, sit back and have a good laugh.

Nice article though. The point was well made.

beautifully said

press breakers are pretty easy to learn and to employ (especially for decent players) and "David's" approach requires committment to the point of overcommittment.

Still...it's harder to beat a team that's in your face, than not for sure.

 

[Tambling Man]

While I was reading the Annals of inovation aritcle, My wife came in to the study looked over my shoulder at my browser tabs and asked why I had a tab marked Game Plan- Rough Anal... She then informed me that I was kidding myself before the slammed the door on her way out.

 

[YinnarTiger]

While I was reading the Annals of inovation aritcle, My wife came in to the study looked over my shoulder at my browser tabs and asked why I had a tab marked Game Plan- Rough Anal... She then informed me that I was kidding myself before the slammed the door on her way out.

:rofl

 

[billyb#40]

It should be plastered all over the walls at Punt Road.

"EFFORT BEATS TALENT"

1 FOOTBALL / DYER-TRIBE / Re: Changes vs North on: April 21, 2009, 11:11:40 pm
Outs -- the Sag-off-Zone we arent playing at all well.
Each week we play a sag off zone where there is no pressure on the player with the ball, we just sag back 5 metres guard a space and watch the ball get kicked over our heads to someone whose free and can then run on and bomb long, or delicately find a target. We neither put pressure on the ball, nor drop fully back. Then if the ball is bombed long into their forward line we are often one on one or out numbered.

Our p1ss weak zone takes away our aggression and leaves us flat footed.

When we have possession there is no-one to kick forward to because we are behind the ball zoning back.
Sometimes in the second half Richo was forward at a one on three defenders contest, no crumbers and thats crap.
The reason the players look uninspired and uncommitted is that the game plan takes away one-on-one footy, the necessity to commit and its confusing our boys. They aren't buying into it with their actions, and anyway its a crap style.
In the last half against the Demons we manned up a little more, opened up the game forward, kicked it long to Richo and started to have a go.
Its time to simplify the game plan, man up, value pressure on the ball, tacklers, aggressively chase the ball and break down the Shinboners. Then we can start quick direct moves forward and get some defensive and forward aggression into things.
Our guys need a simpler structure to play to at least until we gain some confidence. Most of the forwards are decent leads and it can be mixed up who we kick to.

The wishy washy zone back stuff is the start of a crap game plan that our blokes havent bought into it. Lets drop it, man up, lots of aggressive pressure at the ball and ball carrier, and have a red hot crack at them.
Start a new style revolution in the AFL, by having a decent one-on-one game plan and some style.

Come on Terry innovate, p1ss off the soft sock zone, before it does the same to your career.
Sorry to say it again but we have played a crap defensive game for years, its time to step it up.