Gameday: Richmond vs Geelong

[Scoop]

Maybe but I dont think he could have been guaranteed as a PSD at the time of the trade. Realistically RFC had to keep that option open for a number of reasons.

And what reasons are they? Please explain that statement.

Realistically Richmond could have told Jordy "we want but we want you via PSD, we need to keep all our top 30 picks so we can surround you with quality in the coming years.". If he says OK, great if he argues, let him walk.

 

[lamb22]

I try and live in the real world where most things are a shade of gray and not clear cut.

Or I could ignore you. I choose the latter.

Shades of grey - hey that would be a welcome change on PRE

As for the second point it's clear you have a bee in your bonnet about something and you feel compelled to let me know about it. You seem to have problems with contrary opinions. I would have thought contrary opinions help to flesh out shades of grey - otherwise one might tend towards dogmatism (perish the thought).

Nevermind I think you're preferred course is the correct one. I have yet to see any signs off humour, generosity or self awareness in your posts and I will be happy to ignore your posts and you are welcome to ignore mine.

 

[IanG]

Fairly simple really. In the last 2 superdrafts 2001 and 2006 Richmond have in the first instance traded away early picks and begun drafting at 33 and in the 2nd downgraded pick 8 to 13 to pick up a fringe player.

And yet apparently they would have gone for Reiwoldt at 8 anyway. So we lose nothing and gain Polak.

 

[the claw]

Shades of grey - hey that would be a welcome change on PRE

As for the second point it's clear you have a bee in your bonnet about something and you feel compelled to let me know about it. You seem to have problems with contrary opinions. I would have thought contrary opinions help to flesh out shades of grey - otherwise one might tend towards dogmatism (perish the thought).

Nevermind I think you're preferred course is the correct one. I have yet to see any signs off humour, generosity or self awareness in your posts and I will be happy to ignore your posts and you are welcome to ignore mine.

where does one begin with a fool like you. oh i know totally ignore him goodbye. mojo dont feed the the nitpickers it will do your head in.you know and i know he hasnrt got a clue so dont bother.

 

[Bill James]

Bill I dont know how seriously they wanted Judd and what other irons were in the fire, but strategically having pick one in the PSD draft is handy leverage in discussions during trade week.

They obviously wanted Macmahon enough to offer 19. Pretty sure he would have gone to Port if no trade had been done with Tiges. Some would say no big loss. Fair enough but picking up Jordy in PSD draft was not really an option in the circumstances IMO.

So you are saying he wanted to go to Port? Another good reason to pick him.

Trade week is before the National Draft, whatever leverage pick one in the PSD gives you has pretty much gone by the end of trade week. Judd was done before National Draft because Carlton gave up a pick to get him so it makes no sense for RFC to keep the PSD pick free for him.

 

[Tygrys]

ahhhh, so as I dont agree with what you said then Im petulant and delusional and whiny- laughing quite hard right now at how childish you sound. Stamp your foot a little harder ... :rofl

No not because you don't agree with me. There are a number of brightsiders on this forum whose opinion I respect even if I don't necessarily agree with them. It's because you sound like such a baby when you tell people to shut up and keep quiet because they say things that make you sad and unhappy. Your post was one of the biggest dummy spits I have read on this forum and I simply called it as it is.

 

[Tygrys]

Im not the one voicing my opinion on the side so how can it be objectional. My point was ask that people stop being so hard on those that dont agree with them as they have a right to their thoughts as well.....not everyone has to agree with you and they dont. That doesnt mean they have to be attacked for this. On that note Ill butt out as I am in no way an expert and all I know is that I love the Tigers, hate them losing like everyone but not giving up just yet so want to stay positive for now. Now that is something that I give a rats if you care about or not. Sling away!

LMAO

Actually you can be objectionable merely by attempting to bully people into silence that you don't agree with (or didn't your mother ever tell you that?)

To quote a part of the post that inspired my initial comment:

'For once, keep your opinions to yourself and make yourself unhappy and let us have some hope. Please do not share those negative facts with us, after all they are just your thoughts'

Hysterical reading especially when you then go on to claim in this post that I am replying to that all you are appealing for is that:

'people stop being so hard on those that dont agree with them as they have a right to their thoughts as well'

How? By telling those that you don't agree with to shut up? What would you do next ban them? I guess that would make a very harmonious if somewhat boring forum, if only people that agreed with you were allowed to voice an opinion. You really need to work out if you are Joseph Goebbels or Martin Luther King, you're all over the place mate.

 

[gustiger12]

Bring on the footy so we can get back on topic. :rofl

 

[tigerlee]

...... and I simply called it as it is.

you are entitled to your opinion and I will respect that. I will leave it at that as I certainly do not want to get into a slanging match -that does this site no good at all - we (Tiger supporters) are well renowned on other sites for eating our own and I do not like that thought! Have a great day.

 

[Tygrys]

you are entitled to your opinion and I will respect that. I will leave it at that as I certainly do not want to get into a slanging match -that does this site no good at all - we (Tiger supporters) are well renowned on other sites for eating our own and I do not like that thought! Have a great day.

You too! Slanging match over...bring on the Spews!!!

 

[tigerlee]

You too! Slanging match over...bring on the Spews!!!

cheers Tygrys - lets spend our energy hating the scum - a much better use of our me thinks .... :hihi

 

[mojo31]

And yet apparently they would have gone for Reiwoldt at 8 anyway. So we lose nothing and gain Polak.

Whether you lost anything or not is not really the point. Its that in a superdraft the club decided to downgrade the pick from 8 to 13 to pick up a fringe player and not play that so called fringe player in the position he may be suited for. If you are going to do this sort of thing to address what the club sees as a need by taling Polak then at least let him play the position you supposedly recruited him for.

The fact that Riewoldt was the intended pick 8 anyway and they got their man at 13 is not the point. In the last 2 superdrafts richmond have traded out of it in 2001 and not picked until 33 and dongraded ion 2006 and be at the mercy of what other clubs did with their picks 8 to 12.

Its a bit like kicking a torpedo on your lefty foot from 30m out and it sails through to win the game and saying it does not matter and only the result. If yopu are going to downgrade your pick then you should be really going for a player who can fill an important need. Maybe Polak can do that. But he wont do it as a loose man down back or in the ruck. He might do it at CHF or CHB but will need to be played their.

Often we measure things by the result only. But its the process and if things are sound and good or bad luck effect it then you can live with it and understand what you are doing and because its ground in logic and you have your plan you systematically move forward.

 

[linuscambridge]

Geez! whatever you do in life blx don't let a skerrick of truth get in the way of a good hissy fit.
If you actually stopped and watched a Richmond game instead of crying in your beer and telling porkies then you might see that Pettifer regularly plays from the half back flank, through wing and into the forward line. He's not only a quality goal kicking forward flanker but is also our best link at delivery into our forward fifty.
As for so called leaking goals the other way.
Petts job is to get loose of his opponent and create an uncontested avenue to goal when we have the footy, if he does this and another of our players turn the ball over then any player would get caught out by the rebound. Blame the creator of the sh!t turnover not the person trying to create the next option.
Not chasing and tackling hard enough. Coaches instructions. Don't take yourself out of the contest, slow the ball carrier down harrass and corrall him and force him to kick to a contest or make a skill error. If you miss the tackle or bump the opponent gets a free option to do as he likes in his own time.
Petts tackles when he can make them stick and follows the coaches instructions as he should the rest of the time. As for Claw and a couple of others patting you on the arse and congratulating your bucket of bull. Phhhhhhhhhhhhhht accurate and concise such a breath of hot air.

Nice post TM, talk about fiddling while Rome burns, posters like Claw and BLX should have plenty to work with without picking on one of the few Richmond players who feature in top 5 lists for league stats. Pettifer consistantly finishes in the top 5 for goal assists in the AFL, on top of kicking 40 odd goals a year. We have plenty of other areas to fix before worrying about Petts.

 

[poppa x]

A bit late to add my 2c but here goes.

The game was played in 3 phases.

Phase 1 - we won by kicking 2 goals to none in the first 4 minutes. At this point Gellong hadn't touched the ball.
Phase 2 - Give it to Geelong. They kicked 19 of the next 21 goals.
Phase 3 - We smashed them in the last quarter.

So we won 2 of the 3 phases. Things are looking up :hihi