Gameday vs Swans

[Tigers of Old]

In 2002/03, I was hoping Johnson would've done this considering his successful experience with Adelaide in late 90s but nothing happened.

Funny that, yet the Tiger players can't speak more highly of Sugar's leadership and he was around a lot longer than Cuz will be.
BC may have more influence than Sugar but like I say it will be still be limited.

 

[TigerForce]

Funny that, yet the Tiger players can't speak more highly of Sugar's leadership and he was around a lot longer than Cuz will be.
BC may have more influence than Sugar but like I say it will be limited.

Cuz was a much better player than Sugar, and however limited it is, it's better than nothing. If no club wanted him before the draft, then no club will want him now. So as we have him, let's keep and use him.

 

[Tigers of Old]

If no club wanted him before the draft, then no club will want him now. So as we have him, let's keep and use him.

That's likely the case so might as well.

I do enjoy watching him play, just wish he wasn't being wasted in such a crap outfit.

 

[Tygrys]

very dissapointing game..we played really badly and made some shocking turnovers (as usual). However, its hard to cop reading the crap some people write about how we should feel bad about winning games previously because they have cost us a priority pick. How stupid can you be. They actually think that an extra pick in the draft will turn this club around, a club that has some serious problems all the way through it you would suspect. I accept the fact were crap and we need a serious overhaul, but the problem is far more a mental/culture one then anything else. I also laugh at people saying Rawlings cant coach based on a couple of weeks. Do you think that Hardwick would be doing much better in the same situation? Just to be clear Im not a massive Jade fan, but to say he cant coach based on past 2 weeks seems stupid to me

The draft is how you turn a club around. There is no other way - not hypnosis, not the power of positive thought and not 'building a winning culture' crap if the players simply aren't good enough (been there, done that). An extra top 20 pick before GC ravages the draft would have been gold. It's not rocket science - if a player isn't good enough you get rid of him for hopefully someone better. One extra pick won't won't turn the club around on it's own but it would have been an important start and you have to begin somewhere...and we blew it.

 

[IanG]

The draft is how you turn a club around. There is no other way

Adelaide, Sydney and Geelong beg to differ. Adelaide and Sydney in particular do it through smart recruiting of the picks they do have, and good development

 

[hutstar]

Adelaide, Sydney and Geelong beg to differ. Adelaide and Sydney in particular do it through smart recruiting of the picks they do have, and good development

right. it can't be that all our players are uniformly rubbish.
1 development
2 culture
3 coaching
4 recruitment
5 $

 

[chislop]

One thing I noticed during yesterday's game (only up until half way through the third quarter when I decided a dvd was a more entertaining option) was the amount of stuffing and fluffing around to get the ball into the attacking zone, hence giving the Swans heaps of time to flood into it. The Toigs also seriously need to look at the kicks out of defence. Bloody awful!!

Hardwick ....... we need you desperately!

 

[jamo]

Sweeping changes!!! Tuck, Bowden, JON, Hughes, Pattison, Raines all to come back in the side and provide the class, skills, hunger, strength and winning mentality that the current 22 have forgotten!!

Pure Gold ;D

 

[alexwern]

We do need to look at our kick ins. Every single kick in went to the same position, the half back line on the city side, both sides of the ground, Newman didn't even glance to other side once. Way to predictible to be effective

 

[Bill James]

Funny that, yet the Tiger players can't speak more highly of Sugar's leadership and he was around a lot longer than Cuz will be.
BC may have more influence than Sugar but like I say it will be still be limited.

What would the tiger players know about leadership, none of them are old enough to remember when we had leadership

 

[Mr Brightside]

One thing that really stood out yesterday was the fact we had played very poor sides latley and how slow our reactrion time had become, playing poor midfields like Dons,Roos and Dees and then we come up against a great pressure side ,really showed up our greatest weakness.....PRESSURE and ability to handle it

 

[SpaceAce]

One thing I noticed during yesterday's game (only up until half way through the third quarter when I decided a dvd was a more entertaining option) was the amount of stuffing and fluffing around to get the ball into the attacking zone, hence giving the Swans heaps of time to flood into it. The Toigs also seriously need to look at the kicks out of defence. Bloody awful!!

Hardwick ....... we need you desperately!

I agree mate! Rawlings was completely exposed and outcoached yesterday, having no answers to Roos' tactics. He is simply baby sitting the club at the moment and should not be given the top job. Hardwick it is!!!

 

[feisty tige]

It is not just a coach that is going to get us competitive with larger bodied teams.

 

[Tygrys]

Adelaide, Sydney and Geelong beg to differ. Adelaide and Sydney in particular do it through smart recruiting of the picks they do have, and good development

Sydney has an inflated salary cap (in part because they have a mandate from the AFL to be perpetually successful because of the fickleness of the Sydney market). They also have a fortress like home ground advantage plus paradoxically an adaptability to travel because they do it so often. As does Adelaide who additionally have unlimited resources (they have so many people that wish to become members they had to put a cap on it) plus an obvious home state advantage in terms of identifying local talent. Geelong again fortress home ground, plus a whole bunch of father sons that are the equivalent of priority picks. Again there are reasons why Hawthorn, St Kilda, Carlton and Melbournes examples are more relevant to Richmond.

 

[SpaceAce]

It is not just a coach that is going to get us competitive with larger bodied teams.

Therein lies the irony. We are a soft team now because our previous "coach/salesman" refused to develop a menacing team of large bodied players able to take the pressure which opposition sides dish up.

 

[sportshow]

outcoached

this stuck out i thought

Rawlings will be fantastic in a few years time, we just don't have that time on our hands

 

[Tiger74]

Sydney has an inflated salary cap (in part because they have a mandate from the AFL to be perpetually successful because of the fickleness of the Sydney market).

disagree with this. having considered moving to Sydney from Melbourne for work, and having done the math on how much my rental would blow out by, I can tell you the pay rise I needed for parity was more like 50% than just 10%.

Its tough enough getting footballers to stay in Sydney without giving them a financial incentive to leave too.