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Gary Lyon
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Geez, this thread is tough on Lyon. I bet most of us would like to have the choice between a well paid media job and a well paid coaching job. Don't see how he should be criticised for choosing either. Green eyed monster on the loose around here methinks.
Hah hah...here's St.Scumda rambling on about how much work they've done over the last few years to change the culture at St.Kilda and yet they'd entertain having Gary Lyon as coach ?
Geez, given what somebody told me yesterday after having run into him a few weeks ago at a night club, fair dinkum.
Lyon = backward step for St. Scumda.
Here's hoping he gets the job.
Geez, given what somebody told me yesterday after having run into him a few weeks ago at a night club, fair dinkum.
Lyon = backward step for St. Scumda.
Here's hoping he gets the job.
Gazza can talk all he likes. If he is serious, throw your hat in the ring. There is only one way to find out if you have what it takes.
A great player doesn't necessarily make a great coach and you don't have to have been a great player to be a good Coach. Just go ask Tommy Hafey.
Personally I don't think Gary wants the challenge thrown in his lap. He has it too good in the Media.
A great player doesn't necessarily make a great coach and you don't have to have been a great player to be a good Coach. Just go ask Tommy Hafey.
Personally I don't think Gary wants the challenge thrown in his lap. He has it too good in the Media.
craig said:Its easier to criticise others than bear the brunt,
If i were Lyon i'd take it easy on media street
MMMmm, now there is an interesting stone being thrown.
hopper said:
Gotta agree Hippity Hopper. Lyon had a marvelous record as a player, has proven he can learn other skills and crafts, he's as likely to succeed with the help of a couple of years as an assistant as anyone else going around. However, to march straight in - come on Gazza, don't set yourself up for failure. Some times the journey is as important as the destination!
No surprise that he has discounted himself from the Saints job. As I said, like the desert boot (Brereton) is all mouth but is scared to fail.
Thank god Miller didn't manage to persuade him to coach us. Wallace and Eade are a 100 times the coach Lyon would ever be (if he had the guts to take the plunge).
I have met the guy a few times and the smarmy, arrogant attitude is not exclusive to the tv.
Thank god Miller didn't manage to persuade him to coach us. Wallace and Eade are a 100 times the coach Lyon would ever be (if he had the guts to take the plunge).
I have met the guy a few times and the smarmy, arrogant attitude is not exclusive to the tv.
hopper said:
Agree Hopper, personally based on the things I've heard him say in the past, I'd say he'd potentially make a good coach. Being an AFL coach has to be one of the toughest gigs around, you certainly cant chastise Lyon if in fact he doesnt want to coach (or feels hes not ready). Why does that make him a bad person or a failure?
As I said I am thankful he said no to us when Miller asked him. He hasn't done any form of apprenticeship. So you would like him to learn the trade with the Tigers? Rather than score a coach like Wallet or Eade?
The speculation may be all media driven, or manager driven, but if we are to look at it realistically, both Lyon and DB will never coach at the highest level. As I said before. they are too scared too fail.
If you get something wrong in the media it is discussed for a few days and then forgotten. If you stuff up as a coach your reputation is shot.
Can you picture either of these guys wanting to risk a shot reputation versus a relatively 'no blame' gig like the media?
No green eyed monster here. Just assesing the available data. They may make great coaches, which I personally doubt, but you will never get the chance to find out. All their 'expertise' will only ever be tested in the field of special comments. That is their choice.
But it annoys me that they are seen as potential master coaches when all they have ever done to put their necks on the line is the relatively comfortable and safe from criticism job of 'special comments'.
If they were serious and had conviction of their beliefs either of them would have thrown their hat in the ring by now.
Atleast Blighty and Walls (who is Captain Obvious in his comments anyway) have had the intestinal fortitude to try both.
The speculation may be all media driven, or manager driven, but if we are to look at it realistically, both Lyon and DB will never coach at the highest level. As I said before. they are too scared too fail.
If you get something wrong in the media it is discussed for a few days and then forgotten. If you stuff up as a coach your reputation is shot.
Can you picture either of these guys wanting to risk a shot reputation versus a relatively 'no blame' gig like the media?
No green eyed monster here. Just assesing the available data. They may make great coaches, which I personally doubt, but you will never get the chance to find out. All their 'expertise' will only ever be tested in the field of special comments. That is their choice.
But it annoys me that they are seen as potential master coaches when all they have ever done to put their necks on the line is the relatively comfortable and safe from criticism job of 'special comments'.
If they were serious and had conviction of their beliefs either of them would have thrown their hat in the ring by now.
Atleast Blighty and Walls (who is Captain Obvious in his comments anyway) have had the intestinal fortitude to try both.
Too negative, his first thought process when he commentates is to be negative and he never follows it up with a positive. At least he would be off the airwaves if he took a coaching job.
As you say TD, he has discounted himself from the job.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Lyon-rules-himself-out-of-Saints-job/2006/10/03/1159641319849.html
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Lyon-rules-himself-out-of-Saints-job/2006/10/03/1159641319849.html
Tigerdog said:
TD, that's one opinion - but certainly not fact. Lyon (nor DB) certainly have not come out and said that. I doubt either is "scared" to fail. Success is a series of calculated decisions and acts. I'm confident that Lyon has taken good council on the matter, rather than acting scared! It's just a smart decision.
SCOOP said:
Scooper does it again. Garry Lyon was never, ever, EVER going to have a go. But he got a extra 15 minutes of publicity over it and again people were referring to him as a knowledgeable football man. With every coaching job he doesn't get he someone becomes %10 smarter about the game.
He has everyone bluffed.