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Gaspar threads (merged)
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Re: Gas
We lack versatility. We have too many players who are 1 dimensional - Gas, Chubba, Rayzor, Tivva, Cogs, Richo, Pets, - geez I could name most of the team. Good teams have players who can swap roles. Players such as Brad Johnson who can play back/forward/middle.
When we are on top our 1 dimensional players look like super stars but when we're on the belting end they can't change gears or game plan.
All of which is very sad for blokes like Gas.
We lack versatility. We have too many players who are 1 dimensional - Gas, Chubba, Rayzor, Tivva, Cogs, Richo, Pets, - geez I could name most of the team. Good teams have players who can swap roles. Players such as Brad Johnson who can play back/forward/middle.
When we are on top our 1 dimensional players look like super stars but when we're on the belting end they can't change gears or game plan.
All of which is very sad for blokes like Gas.
Re: Gas
It's a good word versatility, once you can have that structured deep into a team, you know you are going places.
Unfortunately, not much of it around at Tigerland.
poppa x said:
It's a good word versatility, once you can have that structured deep into a team, you know you are going places.
Unfortunately, not much of it around at Tigerland.
Re: Gas
Got to agree with a couple of others, Bob is spot on. Although I have immense respect for TW if in fact he did tell Bob that the Tigers were 4 years behind the Dogs and it doesn't sound too far fetched, why didn't he tell us the supporters the same thing? I know people don't want to hear it, but we also don't want to be lied to and then watch a game with some hope only to have it completely smashed out of us.
Got to agree with a couple of others, Bob is spot on. Although I have immense respect for TW if in fact he did tell Bob that the Tigers were 4 years behind the Dogs and it doesn't sound too far fetched, why didn't he tell us the supporters the same thing? I know people don't want to hear it, but we also don't want to be lied to and then watch a game with some hope only to have it completely smashed out of us.
Re: Gas
Wallace said Gas' possessions shouldn't be the basis for criticism, as he was more worried about stopping blokes than trying to rebound. Finger in the dyke type situation, but the dyke was a broken dam.
Personally, swap Hall and Schulz around Phato and I'd be sold.
Wallace said Gas' possessions shouldn't be the basis for criticism, as he was more worried about stopping blokes than trying to rebound. Finger in the dyke type situation, but the dyke was a broken dam.
Personally, swap Hall and Schulz around Phato and I'd be sold.
Re: Gas
again we get on the bandwagon of bagging the defence for the pathetic, inept "performance" of our midfield. You could have 10 Dustin Fletchers, 10 Silvagnis, 10 Mews etc etc & it wouldn't have mattered on Friday night due to the ease with which the pill came out of the middle. The footy was going inside out defensive 50 more often than bombs dropped into Baghdad during Operation Shock & Awe! When our defenders DID get the ball in defence & were looking to run it out, they would look up the ground & see nothing but mannequins with Richmond jumpers on planted out on the ground. Our mids & fwds were absolute BLUDGERS on Friday night & contributed heavily to our smashing.
again we get on the bandwagon of bagging the defence for the pathetic, inept "performance" of our midfield. You could have 10 Dustin Fletchers, 10 Silvagnis, 10 Mews etc etc & it wouldn't have mattered on Friday night due to the ease with which the pill came out of the middle. The footy was going inside out defensive 50 more often than bombs dropped into Baghdad during Operation Shock & Awe! When our defenders DID get the ball in defence & were looking to run it out, they would look up the ground & see nothing but mannequins with Richmond jumpers on planted out on the ground. Our mids & fwds were absolute BLUDGERS on Friday night & contributed heavily to our smashing.
Re: Gas
I think you miss the point.
Half our problem is that we never properly rebound from defence in the first place. So it comes back just as quickly.
zips said:again we get on the bandwagon of bagging the defence for the pathetic, inept "performance" of our midfield. You could have 10 Dustin Fletchers, 10 Silvagnis, 10 Mews etc etc & it wouldn't have mattered on Friday night due to the ease with which the pill came out of the middle. The footy was going inside out defensive 50 more often than bombs dropped into Baghdad during Operation Shock & Awe! When our defenders DID get the ball in defence & were looking to run it out, they would look up the ground & see nothing but mannequins with Richmond jumpers on planted out on the ground. Our mids & fwds were absolute BLUDGERS on Friday night & contributed heavily to our smashing.
I think you miss the point.
Half our problem is that we never properly rebound from defence in the first place. So it comes back just as quickly.
Re: Gas
Been terrific servants of the club but the game has passed them by at a rapid pace. These two along with Chaffey are a part of our past. One dimensional, unskilled, slow, poor decision makers. The truth hurts.
Thanks but goodbye.
Bob is right.Phantom said:
Been terrific servants of the club but the game has passed them by at a rapid pace. These two along with Chaffey are a part of our past. One dimensional, unskilled, slow, poor decision makers. The truth hurts.
Thanks but goodbye.
Re: Gas
Spot on Phantom with your defence, the only change id make is newman goes in the middle and hartigan & johnson come back tuck or cogs goe to hff and that leaves a midfield of Cogs/tuck + Newman + Raines (rotating with Lids)
Suggested defence:
B: Hartigan, Schulz & Thursfield (when he returns)
HB: Johnos/Raines, Hall, Deledio
Spot on Phantom with your defence, the only change id make is newman goes in the middle and hartigan & johnson come back tuck or cogs goe to hff and that leaves a midfield of Cogs/tuck + Newman + Raines (rotating with Lids)
Suggested defence:
B: Hartigan, Schulz & Thursfield (when he returns)
HB: Johnos/Raines, Hall, Deledio
Re: Gas
Phantom, agree with you and Bob.
Gaspar and Kellaway have battled hard over the years but they are now finished. Their disposal is a liability, especially on the Telstra Dome surface, and the pace has gone - bring them out for a windy MCG only!
Most disappointing is the obvious lack of leadership, enthusiasm, aggression, ANYTHING, especially from Gaspar. Football looks like torture to this bloke. I think he'd rather go to the dentist.
At 30 years of age, with over 10 years experience in senior footy, it is just not good enough to be introverted on the field.
Looking forward to the match committee making a stand with both these blokes spending time at Coburg - we desperately need the next generation coming through.
Phantom, agree with you and Bob.
Gaspar and Kellaway have battled hard over the years but they are now finished. Their disposal is a liability, especially on the Telstra Dome surface, and the pace has gone - bring them out for a windy MCG only!
Most disappointing is the obvious lack of leadership, enthusiasm, aggression, ANYTHING, especially from Gaspar. Football looks like torture to this bloke. I think he'd rather go to the dentist.
At 30 years of age, with over 10 years experience in senior footy, it is just not good enough to be introverted on the field.
Looking forward to the match committee making a stand with both these blokes spending time at Coburg - we desperately need the next generation coming through.
Re: Gas
Totally agree.
I don't think Kellaway has been as bad as Gaspar over the years in the sense that he: 1) hasn't been overpaid like Gaspar; 2) has shown more motivation over the journey (i.e. at least he doesn't drop his head like Gaspar does all the time) and; 3) his foot skill isn't as bad as Gaspar's either. Maybe Gaspar's been a better stopper, but that's about it.
Anyway, the point is both have been reflective of the RFC: mediocre players with gaping deficiencies in their game but have survived to play countless years at RFC never the less. The bleeding hearts will say I'm bagging great servants of the club, but I am not interested in emotion. I'm only interested in the RFC having a playing list of superior quality and us not having to laud or make heroes out of what have been mediocre players in comparison with what other clubs put out on the ground from week to week, year to year.
The scary thing is though at the RFC, we have a batch of players coming through who are in that exact Kellaway/Gaspar mould who we are gonna play for years on end....
Hungry said:
Totally agree.
I don't think Kellaway has been as bad as Gaspar over the years in the sense that he: 1) hasn't been overpaid like Gaspar; 2) has shown more motivation over the journey (i.e. at least he doesn't drop his head like Gaspar does all the time) and; 3) his foot skill isn't as bad as Gaspar's either. Maybe Gaspar's been a better stopper, but that's about it.
Anyway, the point is both have been reflective of the RFC: mediocre players with gaping deficiencies in their game but have survived to play countless years at RFC never the less. The bleeding hearts will say I'm bagging great servants of the club, but I am not interested in emotion. I'm only interested in the RFC having a playing list of superior quality and us not having to laud or make heroes out of what have been mediocre players in comparison with what other clubs put out on the ground from week to week, year to year.
The scary thing is though at the RFC, we have a batch of players coming through who are in that exact Kellaway/Gaspar mould who we are gonna play for years on end....
Re: Gas
I sawthis on the winners last night, dont remmber it during the game but did see it and thought it was disgraceful. The bulldogs player who was on Gas got stuck into him about it too. I have always rated Gaspar but that pathetic effort alone andlack of want or will during it needs ot seriously be addressed and if we had someone to come in I would drop him for that passage of play alone as an example that people cannot get away with that. It was terrible and is the first time I have ever said a bad word about Darren Gaspar, but if one of our most experienced and highest paid players puts in an effort like that, our club is going nowhere.
taraba said:
I sawthis on the winners last night, dont remmber it during the game but did see it and thought it was disgraceful. The bulldogs player who was on Gas got stuck into him about it too. I have always rated Gaspar but that pathetic effort alone andlack of want or will during it needs ot seriously be addressed and if we had someone to come in I would drop him for that passage of play alone as an example that people cannot get away with that. It was terrible and is the first time I have ever said a bad word about Darren Gaspar, but if one of our most experienced and highest paid players puts in an effort like that, our club is going nowhere.
