Get off the big fella's back [merged]

[Rayzorwire]

i take no pride in performances like that and i bloody well hope wallace doesnt either.

Wallace: "A for effort, Z for skills..."

You don't win ANY games with the reverse!

Most of us were able to take the great positives of the team's effort levels from the game...IMO you'll be a very miserable supporter for a lot of years no matter what club you barracked for if you can't at least do that Claw...no team can be brilliant year in year out...you have to look for positives where you can find them...not wait for the 2-3 year period every couple of decades where you're somewhere near the top and get miserable all the rest of the years.

 

[Tigermad2005]

Value for a trade would be up.

 

[Crystal]

The darksiders are that, dark and they can be very depressing. For them nothing is acceptable unless we win in everything and they attack others for "accepting less". There is no balance or understanding beyond that.

Their lack of reason, does not mean that they dont bleed for Richmond.....Many domestic violence cases bear witness to this. The problem is that they have a twisted, dark and narrow view of what love is, at best. Unfortunately some people cannot transcend this and this apply's to the hardcore of our darksider's.

It is impossible to get them to see any balance and they become a negative force , spreading angst and despair for many of us at times. They try to destroy love and respect whilst claiming that they are the one true lover.

Tom Hafey was ruthless when it came to building the club. He famously swam past Tony Jewell to save Royce Hart. But hear him talk and you will find his great strength comes with the way he speaks of people and of what it takes to build a truely collective functioning and potent unit.

I was lucky enough to sit next to him for dinner one night and I recall him saying that his failure to recognise what The Whale meant as a person to the team, probably cost us a flag. He had sent him packing to South Melbourne based solely on his perception of team balance and Whale's football deficiencies. But Whale was such a part of the Tiger heartbeat that it brought the team undone.

The hardcore Darksiders dont know what Humanity and Soul are about....They will descend into racist denigration ( See the Krakouer thread ) and then say we love Maurice Rioli , we are not racists...that is of course, until they decide that you are a DUD and then the honorary role of equals under humanity, is dumped for vitriol, darkness and bigoty.

Dont debate these people or try to change them ...I truely find it sad but as that old writing Desiderata wisely said.....do not mingle or daly with those you find vexatious to the soul.

When we do, we give them credibility and aid them on their path.

Such one dimensional loving as their's ,...... we dont need.

Great post Omarkum. :clap :clap (Desiderata is my all time fave poem too. ;D)

 

[TigerMasochist]

The darksiders are that, dark and they can be very depressing. For them nothing is acceptable unless we win in everything and they attack others for "accepting less". There is no balance or understanding beyond that.

Their lack of reason, does not mean that they dont bleed for Richmond.....Many domestic violence cases bear witness to this. The problem is that they have a twisted, dark and narrow view of what love is, at best. Unfortunately some people cannot transcend this and this apply's to  the hardcore of our darksider's.

It is impossible to get them to see any balance and they become a negative force , spreading angst and despair for many of us at times. They try to destroy love and respect whilst claiming that they are the one true lover.

Tom Hafey was ruthless when it came to building the club. He famously swam past Tony Jewell to save Royce Hart. But hear him talk and you will find his great strength comes with the way he speaks of people and of what it takes to build a truely collective  functioning and potent unit.

I was lucky enough to sit next to him for dinner one night and I recall him saying that his failure to recognise what The Whale meant as a person to the team, probably cost us a flag. He had sent him packing to South Melbourne based solely on his perception of team balance and Whale's football deficiencies. But Whale was such a part of the Tiger heartbeat that it brought the team undone.

The hardcore Darksiders dont know what Humanity and Soul are about....They will descend into racist denigration ( See the Krakouer thread ) and then say we love Maurice Rioli , we are not racists...that is of course, until they decide that you are a DUD and then the honorary role of equals under humanity, is dumped for vitriol, darkness and bigoty.

Dont debate these people or try to change them ...I truely find it sad but as that old writing Desiderata wisely said.....do not mingle or daly with those you find vexatious to the soul.

When we do, we give them credibility and aid them on their path.

Such  one dimensional loving as their's ,...... we dont need. 

Bloody Hell now all them darksiders are wife bashin racists. How did we let them get on this site.
Shame on you. Yes. All of you. Specially you Claw. Glad I'm just a humble well adjusted little masochist :ner

 

[CarnTheTiges]

The darksiders are that, dark and they can be very depressing. For them nothing is acceptable unless we win in everything and they attack others for "accepting less". There is no balance or understanding beyond that.

Their lack of reason, does not mean that they dont bleed for Richmond.....Many domestic violence cases bear witness to this. The problem is that they have a twisted, dark and narrow view of what love is, at best. Unfortunately some people cannot transcend this and this apply's to  the hardcore of our darksider's.

It is impossible to get them to see any balance and they become a negative force , spreading angst and despair for many of us at times. They try to destroy love and respect whilst claiming that they are the one true lover.

Tom Hafey was ruthless when it came to building the club. He famously swam past Tony Jewell to save Royce Hart. But hear him talk and you will find his great strength comes with the way he speaks of people and of what it takes to build a truely collective  functioning and potent unit.

I was lucky enough to sit next to him for dinner one night and I recall him saying that his failure to recognise what The Whale meant as a person to the team, probably cost us a flag. He had sent him packing to South Melbourne based solely on his perception of team balance and Whale's football deficiencies. But Whale was such a part of the Tiger heartbeat that it brought the team undone.

The hardcore Darksiders dont know what Humanity and Soul are about....They will descend into racist denigration ( See the Krakouer thread ) and then say we love Maurice Rioli , we are not racists...that is of course, until they decide that you are a DUD and then the honorary role of equals under humanity, is dumped for vitriol, darkness and bigoty.

Dont debate these people or try to change them ...I truely find it sad but as that old writing Desiderata wisely said.....do not mingle or daly with those you find vexatious to the soul.

When we do, we give them credibility and aid them on their path.

Such  one dimensional loving as their's ,...... we dont need. 

Nicely put Omarkum.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Dont debate these people or try to change them ...I truely find it sad but as that old writing Desiderata wisely said.....do not mingle or daly with those you find vexatious to the soul.

This is an Ok post Omar Sharif and this I fundamentally agree with it but your domestic violence comparisions are way, way OTT :.

 

[the claw]

As to claw's comment that opposition supporters don't rate Richo I suppose that's why Parkin. wearing his Carlton hat, ran him down before the game saying that Carlton would win because Richo never has 2 good games in a row and why Pagan commented that largely the reason they lost was that they couldn't stop Richo. Possibly it was the move of taking their best forward option in Whitnall and putting him on Richo to minimise damage. When the bloke is on song he's unstoppable. He will NOT be traded and nor should he. Richmond would be the laughing stock the league if they did so.

every game ive been to opposition supporters continually laugh their boxes off at richo a lot of their comments allude to the bleeding obvious which makes him very hard to defend.
as for trading players many of my mates who are wce supporters are for trading cousins at the end of this yr. at 29 next yr he is entering the back end of his career and the weagles would once again access early picks hence they continually look after their future.
regardless of how we rate richo, at the ripe old age of 32 next yr we as a club would be fools not to explore the possibility of acquireing early draft picks for him.
even if i rated him as a champion i would be upset if the club did not explore the option of tradeing richo.

 

[purepoweryouth]

As to claw's comment that opposition supporters don't rate Richo I suppose that's why Parkin. wearing his Carlton hat, ran him down before the game saying that Carlton would win because Richo never has 2 good games in a row and why Pagan commented that largely the reason they lost was that they couldn't stop Richo. Possibly it was the move of taking their best forward option in Whitnall and putting him on Richo to minimise damage. When the bloke is on song he's unstoppable. He will NOT be traded and nor should he. Richmond would be the laughing stock the league if they did so.

every game ive been to opposition supporters continually laugh their boxes off at richo a lot of their comments allude to the bleeding obvious which makes him very hard to defend.
as for trading players many of my mates who are wce supporters are for trading cousins at the end of this yr. at 29 next yr he is entering the back end of his career and the weagles would once again access early picks hence they continually look after their future.
regardless of how we rate richo, at the ripe old age of 32 next yr we as a club would be fools not to explore the possibility of acquireing early draft picks for him.
even if i rated him as a champion i would be upset if the club did not explore the option of tradeing richo.

Now we can see why you talk so much crap.

 

[poppa x]

Despite Richos woeful kicking he still aveages more goals per game than Tarrant, Rocca, Tredrea, Gehrig, Kingsley and a bus load of other key forwards.  And this in a crap era of the RFC.
Add in his 100% effort and gut busting running and you have a champion - who is the heart and soul of our club.
Yes opposition morons laugh at Richo. So what?  So did I on Friday night.  But amongst the laughs was immense pride at how the big fella was competing and showing the young uns how to play the game. Cleaver would have seen how fit, strong and willing he has to become to replace Richo in a few years time.

 

[momentai]

As one who has been among those who have suggested that the Club might benefit in the long term from the trade of Richo, I have to say that he has absolutely been giving us his best since this thread was started.mmm

Anyway assuming he stays, would love to see him in the no 17 jumper.

 

[JR8]

Claw calls quite a few of us on here deluded ferals.

Here he is advocating trading Richo for 2 first round picks!!

He has got to be kidding doesn't he?? Which team would give that even for Richo?

Now I ask you, WHO is the deluded feral??? : :

 

[GoodOne]

Richo is Richo, love him or leave him. I love him, often frustrating as hell, but let's face it, in all the mediocre of the Richmond footy club in the last 15 years, Richmond is Richo, Richo is Richmond. Talk of trading is a waste of time, he's not going anywhere, and nor should he. Sometimes you have to give sentiment a go.

Cheers

 

[Legends of 2017]

every game ive been to opposition supporters continually laugh their boxes off at richo a lot of their comments allude to the bleeding obvious which makes him very hard to defend.as for trading players many of my mates who are wce supporters are for trading cousins at the end of this yr. at 29 next yr he is entering the back end of his career and the weagles would once again access early picks hence they continually look after their future.
regardless of how we rate richo, at the ripe old age of 32 next yr we as a club would be fools not to explore the possibility of acquireing early draft picks for him.
even if i rated him as a champion i would be upset if the club did not explore the option of tradeing richo.

So would it be safe to assume you don't go to many games? On the same note, can we assume that you defend him loud and hard when he does play well and win matches for us? Or do you keep quiet, or bag him because he only kicked 10 goals not 15, or only took 15 marks not 20?

 

[CarnTheTiges]

every game ive been to opposition supporters continually laugh their boxes off at richo a lot of their comments allude to the bleeding obvious which makes him very hard to defend.as for trading players many of my mates who are wce supporters are for trading cousins at the end of this yr. at 29 next yr he is entering the back end of his career and the weagles would once again access early picks hence they continually look after their future.
regardless of how we rate richo, at the ripe old age of 32 next yr we as a club would be fools not to explore the possibility of acquireing early draft picks for him.
even if i rated him as a champion i would be upset if the club did not explore the option of tradeing richo.

So would it be safe to assume you don't go to many games? On the same note, can we assume that you defend him loud and hard when he does play well and win matches for us? Or do you keep quiet, or bag him because he only kicked 10 goals not 15, or only took 15 marks not 20?

Claw is in WA and if he only goes to matches there I couldn't imagine there would be too many WC or Freo supporters about to say nice things about Richo. One of the biggest compliments I ever heard for him was at the Dogs game when he kicked 10, a Dogs supporter behind me muttered early in the game I *smile* hate this big prick! When they start saying things like that you know they rate you.

 

[Legends of 2017]

every game ive been to opposition supporters continually laugh their boxes off at richo a lot of their comments allude to the bleeding obvious which makes him very hard to defend.as for trading players many of my mates who are wce supporters are for trading cousins at the end of this yr. at 29 next yr he is entering the back end of his career and the weagles would once again access early picks hence they continually look after their future.
regardless of how we rate richo, at the ripe old age of 32 next yr we as a club would be fools not to explore the possibility of acquireing early draft picks for him.
even if i rated him as a champion i would be upset if the club did not explore the option of tradeing richo.

So would it be safe to assume you don't go to many games? On the same note, can we assume that you defend him loud and hard when he does play well and win matches for us? Or do you keep quiet, or bag him because he only kicked 10 goals not 15, or only took 15 marks not 20?

Claw is in WA and if he only goes to matches there I couldn't imagine there would be too many WC or Freo supporters about to say nice things about Richo. One of the biggest compliments I ever heard for him was at the Dogs game when he kicked 10, a Dogs supporter behind me muttered early in the game I *smile*ing hate this big prick! When they start saying things like that you know they rate you.

Fair enough, didn't know that. Second part of my question is still valid though.

 

[No 4]

As I walked pass Richo's Dad, I praised his son for a wonderful game. As a true gentleman, he thanked me.


Well done both Richos.

 

[AngryAnt]

every game ive been to opposition supporters continually laugh their boxes off at richo a lot of their comments allude to the bleeding obvious which makes him very hard to defend.
as for trading players many of my mates who are wce supporters are for trading cousins at the end of this yr. at 29 next yr he is entering the back end of his career and the weagles would once again access early picks hence they continually look after their future.
regardless of how we rate richo, at the ripe old age of 32 next yr we as a club would be fools not to explore the possibility of acquireing early draft picks for him.
even if i rated him as a champion i would be upset if the club did not explore the option of tradeing richo.

I would not take the opinions of West Coast and Freo supporters on Richo too seriously Claw. Opposition supporters laugh at Richo when he kicks out of bounds on the full but they shut up pretty quick when he starts dominating and kicking goals.

Oh, and Richo won't be traded mate - regardless of what you or anyone else on this site thinks.

 

[No 4]

every game ive been to opposition supporters continually laugh their boxes off at richo a lot of their comments allude to the bleeding obvious which makes him very hard to defend.
as for trading players many of my mates who are wce supporters are for trading cousins at the end of this yr. at 29 next yr he is entering the back end of his career and the weagles would once again access early picks hence they continually look after their future.
regardless of how we rate richo, at the ripe old age of 32 next yr we as a club would be fools not to explore the possibility of acquireing early draft picks for him.
even if i rated him as a champion i would be upset if the club did not explore the option of tradeing richo.

I would not take the opinions of West Coast and Freo supporters on Richo too seriously Claw.  Opposition supporters laugh at Richo when he kicks out of bounds on the full but they shut up pretty quick when he starts dominating and kicking goals. 

Oh, and Richo won't be traded mate - regardless of what you or anyone else on this site thinks.

if Richo was in last ten losing grand finalists side, his presence and ability will at least help those sides win 7 premierships.