Global Warming

Sintiger

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Aug 11, 2010
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Camberwell
Yeah, not worth it. He believes in liberty, but only as defined by Giardiasis.

DS
I am not going to debate it. I was genuinely questioning it.
Essentially it is morally right, as was the abolition of slavery, so therefore it should to be implemented.
 

Giardiasis

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Apr 20, 2009
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I am not going to debate it. I was genuinely questioning it.
Essentially it is morally right, as was the abolition of slavery, so therefore it should to be implemented.
There was nothing genuine about it, it was the same old leading question I’ve fielded several times on these boards that will then lead to the claim that empirical knowledge trumps everything. The point I was making about slavery was that you didn’t need empirical knowledge such as slaves are less productive than free workers to argue that it should be abolished.

Your glib response to that then got one in return, what did you expect? If you were genuinely interested then you would have questioned me further about my arguments so they could be criticised but glib is all I got.
 
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Sintiger

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There was nothing genuine about it, it was the same old leading question I’ve fielded several times on these boards that will then lead to the claim that empirical knowledge trumps everything. The point I was making about slavery was that you didn’t need empirical knowledge such as slaves are less productive than free workers to argue that it should be abolished.

Your glib response to that then got one in return, what did you expect? If you were genuinely interested then you would have questioned me further about my arguments so they could be criticised but glib is all I got.
Thanks for telling me what I think. For all you seem to “know” reading people’s motivations is not one of your major skills it seems.
What you are actually saying is that obtaining your view of liberty lies on the same moral level as the abolition of slavery. I just happen to believe that is nonsense and that comes from reading multiple posts of yours over a long period in the past.
if you check back you will see that I have chosen in the past not to debate that with you and I won’t.
 

Giardiasis

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Apr 20, 2009
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Thanks for telling me what I think. For all you seem to “know” reading people’s motivations is not one of your major skills it seems.
What you are actually saying is that obtaining your view of liberty lies on the same moral level as the abolition of slavery. I just happen to believe that is nonsense and that comes from reading multiple posts of yours over a long period in the past.
if you check back you will see that I have chosen in the past not to debate that with you and I won’t.
You’re not interested in debating, I knew this from multiple posts of yours over a long period in the past, hence why I knew you weren’t genuinely interested, you were trying to set me up for a cheap gotcha. So don’t expect me to take you seriously when you respond to my posts.

No where did I say what you claim I said. I’ll re-word it for you. My claim is that you don’t need empirical knowledge to derive normative claims concerning the structure of society.
 

Sintiger

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Aug 11, 2010
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You’re not interested in debating, I knew this from multiple posts of yours over a long period in the past, hence why I knew you weren’t genuinely interested, you were trying to set me up for a cheap gotcha. So don’t expect me to take you seriously when you respond to my posts.

No where did I say what you claim I said. I’ll re-word it for you. My claim is that you don’t need empirical knowledge to derive normative claims concerning the structure of society.
Ok.
 

Coburgtiger

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May 7, 2012
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Suburban cricket colded out in consecutive weeks. I will be long dead before global warming is tangible - if it ever is - and that's no exaggeration.
Quick, let the papers know! It was cold for two weeks in Melbourne and one person might not be affected by global warming, as long as they die quick enough.

Stay tuned for next week when a man who stuck his head in an oven was surprised when it caught fire. 'But it was cold in my fridge? How was I supposed to know that every temperature is not the average temperature. This is somehow gay marriage's fault.'
 
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eZyT

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Obviously anecdotal. But it feels entirely apocalyptic where I live.

Its normally lush green rainforest. 2m of rain a year usually.

we've had 600mm this year.

that qualifies as semi-arid.

right now there's bushfires all around. cant see the neighbours joint about 1km away for smoke.

Its hot as ****, dry as ****, smokey as **** and grim as ****.

in my opinion we'll all be burnt and starved way before sea-level rise bites.

Im feeling a bit like a dystopian future is a thing of the past.
 
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taztiger4

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Obviously anecdotal. But it feels entirely apocalyptic where I live.

Its normally lush green rainforest. 2m of rain a year usually.

we've had 600mm this year.

that qualifies as semi-arid.

right now there's bushfires all around. cant see the neighbours joint about 1km away for smoke.

Its hot as ****, dry as ****, smokey as **** and grim as ****.

in my opinion we'll all be burnt and starved way before sea-level rise bites.

Im feeling a bit like a dystopian future is a thing of the past.
Hope you & yours aren't in any danger, stay safe mate
 
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eZyT

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Hope you & yours aren't in any danger, stay safe mate
ta mate.

pretty slim chance the farm burns next week in a northerly

but me and mrs easy's fire plan is

1. grab the dusty shrine
2 grab the kids baby photo albums
3. open all the gates,
4. grab a roll of cash,
5. spend it on margaritas at the pub on the beach, and
6. hope the insurance company's wheel of fortune lands on 'pay'
 
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TigerMasochist

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Jul 13, 2003
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TM, it's good you're thinking on global scales, but your logic is arse backwards.

Around 250 million years ago, climate change wiped out 97% of the species on this planet.
Haaaarrrrgh. Funny as ****. Was just channel surfing this arvo and some South American professor lady was explaining just this incident to some woman on a Chinese run t.v. program. There was this ginormous asteroid hit Earth n seriously ****** everything up in a big hurry back then, took about 300,000 years for the planet to recover to some extent and it was the climate change that wiped out most of the dominant reptilian life and allowed mammals ( that's us ) to evolve n take over control. There's nothing spectacular about the human species apart from our ability to think sideways, mess the **** out of everything we decide to **** around with and our belief that we are far more privileged and entitled than anything else that rummages around on this planet. You can also guarantee that if we have another Krakatoa or similar volcanic earth fart any time in the future there'll be massive instant climate repercussions that nothing can be done about. Or if the Sun itself has a period of massive Solar flares n disruptions we'll get hammered again weather wise. But some **** ant with a Government grant in his back pocket will somehow decide that we need to go back to neanderthal existence to cure the world of all our climate change.

What is it now? 6 or 7 billion people all rummaging around on this planet n probably 70% of them don't have what's considered to be a first world existence. Doesn't matter what the " haves " of this world decide to cut back or give up. The " have nots " will be using every means possible n busting their arses to catch up or get ahead of us while we're sitting in the corner wringing our hands n bleating about how everyone else is ******* up the planet.
 

TigerMasochist

Walks softly carries a big stick.
Jul 13, 2003
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Really, the little you know continually amazes me.




Just make sure ya never turn the heater on when it's cold or vice versa with the aircon when it's hot. Don't turn the lights on when it gets dark or **** like that when there might be peak energy consumption. And FFS kneel down n pray that it never gets cloudy n gloomy n there's no wind blowin otherwise ya won't even be able to make a cuppa n bit of toast for your morning brekky.
 

TigerMasochist

Walks softly carries a big stick.
Jul 13, 2003
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Obviously anecdotal. But it feels entirely apocalyptic where I live.

Its normally lush green rainforest. 2m of rain a year usually.

we've had 600mm this year.

that qualifies as semi-arid.

right now there's bushfires all around. cant see the neighbours joint about 1km away for smoke.

Its hot as ****, dry as ****, smokey as **** and grim as ****.

in my opinion we'll all be burnt and starved way before sea-level rise bites.

Im feeling a bit like a dystopian future is a thing of the past.
Drought affected n bush fires so I'm guessin you're around the N.S.W. QLD. region eZy. **** of a situation to be in this year.
Not meaning to be annoying or pick an argument just for the sake of stirring on the climate change factor. But, gotta love a but right. There's always been a cycle of to much rain, drought, bush fires etc right across Aust ever since I can recall reading newspapers or watching news. These issues get exacerbated when more and more people decide to move bush or up into the hinterland n get close to nature. It's also compounded by more and more councils refusing to allow homeowners to remove trees from their properties n excess shrubbery in close proximity.
Bit of extra dry weather, some half wit with a box of matches or a lightning strike n a strong breeze n it's a recipe for the **** to hit the fan big time.
 

eZyT

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Drought affected n bush fires so I'm guessin you're around the N.S.W. QLD. region eZy. **** of a situation to be in this year.
Not meaning to be annoying or pick an argument just for the sake of stirring on the climate change factor. But, gotta love a but right. There's always been a cycle of to much rain, drought, bush fires etc right across Aust ever since I can recall reading newspapers or watching news. These issues get exacerbated when more and more people decide to move bush or up into the hinterland n get close to nature. It's also compounded by more and more councils refusing to allow homeowners to remove trees from their properties n excess shrubbery in close proximity.
Bit of extra dry weather, some half wit with a box of matches or a lightning strike n a strong breeze n it's a recipe for the **** to hit the fan big time.
yes extremely weather has always been around

but the data clearly shows its more extreme and more frequent.