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Brodders17

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So you think we should spend up big, and have the risks associated with nuclear power, purely to meet international obligations? that you think have no purpose?
if the obligations are pointless shouldnt those obligations be challenged before we go down the nuclear path?
 

DavidSSS

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A couple of decades of power and thousands of years of toxic radioactive waste, yeah that makes sense :rolleyes:

Only makes sense with huge subsidies and high price guarantees, like the UK government is doing with their new nuclear power station.

Good to see Lee is now conceding that we have to do something about climate change.

DS
 

LeeToRainesToRoach

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So you think we should spend up big, and have the risks associated with nuclear power, purely to meet international obligations? that you think have no purpose?
if the obligations are pointless shouldnt those obligations be challenged before we go down the nuclear path?
No I don't support it. But unless One Nation gets into power or we unearth a Trump or the agreement falls over, there is no avoiding it. So let's at least make it reliable.

I don't expect the Keeling Curve to give a sh!t about our puny attempts at dictating climate but at least once it is done, we can focus on adaptation.
 

AngryAnt

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No I don't support it. But unless One Nation gets into power or we unearth a Trump or the agreement falls over, there is no avoiding it. So let's at least make it reliable.

I don't expect the Keeling Curve to give a sh!t about our puny attempts at dictating climate but at least once it is done, we can focus on adaptation.

Why would we need to adapt? You said global warmists should be shot into the sun.
 

AngryAnt

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Been colder than the previous 18 summers by more than 1 degree per day.

That's climate change for you - you'll get unusual effects.

Got colleagues in Houston - they just had a crazy crazy cold spell. Houston is sub-tropical which makes it something like Brisbane - yet they had snow, burst pipes and frozen streets and massive blackouts. Around 30 people dead from hypothermia.

Of course the GOP blamed the 10% renewables in their grid even though its 90% fossil fue/gas/nuclear. Even one of their nuclear plants shut down due to the extreme cold. Of course, in the northern states like Ohio they have no problems with cold weather either for fossil fuel plants or renewables as they've winterised their systems.
 

LeeToRainesToRoach

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That's climate change for you - you'll get unusual effects.

Got colleagues in Houston - they just had a crazy crazy cold spell. Houston is sub-tropical which makes it something like Brisbane - yet they had snow, burst pipes and frozen streets and massive blackouts. Around 30 people dead from hypothermia.

Of course the GOP blamed the 10% renewables in their grid even though its 90% fossil fue/gas/nuclear. Even one of their nuclear plants shut down due to the extreme cold. Of course, in the northern states like Ohio they have no problems with cold weather either for fossil fuel plants or renewables as they've winterised their systems.
Yes I have been following. Texas goes it alone with their power & gas and got caught unprepared. They had to stage the blackouts as the grid was about to fail. Cold is more deadly than heat.
 

AngryAnt

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Yes I have been following. Texas goes it alone with their power & gas and got caught unprepared. They had to stage the blackouts as the grid was about to fail. Cold is more deadly than heat.

Yeah, total cluster****. Apparently they wanted more control and "freedom" from Federal regs so isolated most of their grid from the national grid (with some exceptions I believe). Texas Senator Ted Cruz got totally lambasted for flying down to Cancun with his family while people were dying and suffering due to no power etc. They had a similar (not as bad) extreme cold event in 2011 and were warned this could happen, but did nothing.

Renewables, nuclear, gas/oil/coal power supplies all knocked out.
 

AngryAnt

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And right on cue, science tells us why climate change is hurting. The AMOC is close to collapse, and that will mean harsher winters and hotter summers in Europe.

All cool though, a few nutty bloggers will tell us why it's all over dramatised.


 

Brodders17

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And right on cue, science tells us why climate change is hurting. The AMOC is close to collapse, and that will mean harsher winters and hotter summers in Europe.

All cool though, a few nutty bloggers will tell us why it's all over dramatised.



Nutty bloggers? Next you will be telling me i shouldnt be getting my Covid advice from Craig Kelly and that chef dude.
 
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Baloo

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Yeah, total cluster****. Apparently they wanted more control and "freedom" from Federal regs so isolated most of their grid from the national grid (with some exceptions I believe). Texas Senator Ted Cruz got totally lambasted for flying down to Cancun with his family while people were dying and suffering due to no power etc. They had a similar (not as bad) extreme cold event in 2011 and were warned this could happen, but did nothing.

Renewables, nuclear, gas/oil/coal power supplies all knocked out.
Why did Cruz get lambasted? It's not like he holds the hose or sits in the control room.
 
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Baloo

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Renewables, nuclear, gas/oil/coal power supplies all knocked out.
Yes, the infra couldn't handle the cold. But it was amusing seeing politicians over there claiming that solar was failing because it was too cold. Guess these guys never got sunburned on the ski slopes.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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And right on cue, science tells us why climate change is hurting. The AMOC is close to collapse, and that will mean harsher winters and hotter summers in Europe.

All cool though, a few nutty bloggers will tell us why it's all over dramatised.


Yes they made a science fiction film about it, The Day After Tomorrow.

Not a lot of hot weather around to frighten people with.
 

DavidSSS

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The scenario in The Day After Tomorrow is plausible if somewhat low on the probability scale.

They were trying to make a point but, the problem was, it just wasn't a very good movie.

DS