Greg and Terry at work.

[tha8ball]

Spot on guys....its time this club stopped accepting mediocre footballers as i dont care what they say, how nice they are, how fit they are etc...if they cant play football then its goodbye.....enough is enough i want a flag and thankgod Miller and Wallace are in charge cause they wont hang onto and accept rubbish footballers - they want talent and thats why they are going after players like Akermanis and why they got Brown...cause those are the guys who bring premierships.

 

[poppa x]

We need to be very careful with Chubba.  Every club has players who bring more to the table than their footy skills.  These players are part of the clubs fabric/culture.  Chubba is in this category. I'm old enough to remember when we traded Whale Roberts which has to go down as one of the recruiting blunders of all time.  He was fat, unskilled and past his prime - but he in this era was the heart and soul of the club.  And it took us a long time to recover from that piece of folly.  Tommy H often recounts what a mistake it was.

I'm not saying we let Chubba play forever.  We simply need to acknowledge the long term Kellaway/Richmond link and handle his eventual retirement very carefully. He deserves to be treated with respect.  And most Tiger fans will demand that he gets it.

 

[momentai]

How's this for a 3 way go - polak to Brisbane - aka to Essendon- solly to Freo!

While it appears to be the case that Polak and Aka could be part of such a trade, and may be even Soloman, I think that whoever gets Aker would be miles in front.

He is by far the most accomplished and imo the possibility that Polak will ever play at that level is nil. As for Soloman I rate his career as roughly parallel to that of Chaffey. Time for him to retire?

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

We need to be very careful with Chubba.  Every club has players who bring more to the table than their footy skills.  These players are part of the clubs fabric/culture.  Chubba is in this category. I'm old enough to remember when we traded Whale Roberts which has to go down as one of the recruiting blunders of all time.  He was fat, unskilled and past his prime - but he in this era was the heart and soul of the club.  And it took us a long time to recover from that piece of folly.  Tommy H often recounts what a mistake it was.

I'm not saying we let Chubba play forever.  We simply need to acknowledge the long term Kellaway/Richmond link and handle his eventual retirement very carefully. He deserves to be treated with respect.  And most Tiger fans will demand that he gets it.

Good post px.

 

[tigersnake]

I'm not saying we shouldn't treat him with respect, but we shouldn't guild the lilly either, one more year would be one too many.

 

[Rayzorwire]

Why all this hype about Polak ? He is no better player than Ray Hall. Plus he's damaged. Waste of picks/money IMO.

Comparing Ray Hall to any other AFL listed player is just not fair .... to that other player.

There's that overpowering smell of methane again... :hihi

 

[billyb#40]

Cats rumor is that we get Kent Kingsley but why and what would you give for him - not much in my opinion

 

[WesternTiger]

Cats rumor is that we get Kent Kingsley but why and what would you give for him - not much in my opinion

:rofl

Someone is pulling your chain billyboy

They are just trying to get back at us for the :donut

 

[yandb]

polak reminds me of an afl player we once swaped collingwood for, aaron james.
troubled child, lots of potential rarely delivered.

pass

 

[davidrodan]

Did you see him in the paper the other day
Has put on a few...tonnes :hihi

 

[Tango]

We need to be very careful with Chubba.  Every club has players who bring more to the table than their footy skills.  These players are part of the clubs fabric/culture.  Chubba is in this category. I'm old enough to remember when we traded Whale Roberts which has to go down as one of the recruiting blunders of all time.  He was fat, unskilled and past his prime - but he in this era was the heart and soul of the club.  And it took us a long time to recover from that piece of folly.  Tommy H often recounts what a mistake it was.

I'm not saying we let Chubba play forever.  We simply need to acknowledge the long term Kellaway/Richmond link and handle his eventual retirement very carefully. He deserves to be treated with respect.  And most Tiger fans will demand that he gets it.

I disagree Poppa, its this type of mentality that has kept us where we are for the last decade, its ok when you have a winning culture like Tommy had, but we need to break the culture at the club and rid ourselves of the kellaways, daffeys, cambells, knights of the past (not because we dont think they were good players, or bled Y&B) but because they all came through together and are part of that losing weak minded culture (as a group not individuals)

what we are seeing today is a culture forming where kids such as polo, lids, bling, patto, white etc are saying things like we win when we all play together (ie) fab 5 - they expect to win, keep fighting when down and are forming a winning tough minded culture.

the wheel is turning and the odd playing favourite will get chopped along the way but thats progress
and hopefully a recipe for success

 

[Hayfever]

We need to be very careful with Chubba.  Every club has players who bring more to the table than their footy skills.  These players are part of the clubs fabric/culture.  Chubba is in this category. I'm old enough to remember when we traded Whale Roberts which has to go down as one of the recruiting blunders of all time.  He was fat, unskilled and past his prime - but he in this era was the heart and soul of the club.  And it took us a long time to recover from that piece of folly.  Tommy H often recounts what a mistake it was.

I'm not saying we let Chubba play forever.  We simply need to acknowledge the long term Kellaway/Richmond link and handle his eventual retirement very carefully. He deserves to be treated with respect.  And most Tiger fans will demand that he gets it.

I disagree Poppa, its this type of mentality that has kept us where we are for the last decade, its ok when you have a winning culture like Tommy had, but we need to break the culture at the club and rid ourselves of the kellaways, daffeys, cambells, knights of the past (not because we dont think they were good players, or bled Y&B) but because they all came through together and are part of that losing weak minded culture (as a group not individuals)

what we are seeing today is a culture forming where kids such as polo, lids, bling, patto, white etc are saying things like we win when we all play together (ie) fab 5 - they expect to win, keep fighting when down and are forming a winning tough minded culture.

the wheel is turning and the odd playing favourite will get chopped along the way but thats progress
and hopefully a recipe for success

Which is a major reason why getting someone like Aker would help the kids and inspire the Richo's etc that we can win flags.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

I disagree Poppa, its this type of mentality that has kept us where we are for the last decade, its ok when you have a winning culture like Tommy had, but we need to break the culture at the club and rid ourselves of the kellaways, daffeys, cambells, knights of the past (not because we dont think they were good players, or bled Y&B) but because they all came through together and are part of that losing weak minded culture (as a group not individuals)

what we are seeing today is a culture forming where kids such as polo, lids, bling, patto, white etc are saying things like we win when we all play together (ie) fab 5 - they expect to win, keep fighting when down and are forming a winning tough minded culture.

the wheel is turning and the odd playing favourite will get chopped along the way but thats progress
and hopefully a recipe for success

Don't agree, it sounds as though you think the main thing that prevented us being successful in the past was attitude/losing culture, rather than lack of talent. No point lopping blokes' heads off just because they are remnants of the bad old days.

 

[Baloo]

At the end of the day I'll back Terry's decision whatever it may be. A couple of good moves from Terry that I'm sure the ferals were dead against:

Tuch staying on the list
Raines staying on the list
Pat Bowden over from Footscray for pick 70something.
Most of the rookies and draft picks have performed above expectations.

The only 'dud' choice I can think of was Humm, but he didn't cost us much at all.

So far his track record is worthy of my benefit of the doubt.

 

[Richmond United]

Pat Bowden over from Footscray for pick 70something.

I think it may have been pick 50 something.....a proverbial steal! Well done Paddy!

Can't wait to see the surprises tw and gm will deal out during the 2006 trade period......love your work boys!

 

[BrisTiger24]

Cats rumor is that we get Kent Kingsley but why and what would you give for him - not much in my opinion

There is no chance that Bummer Thompson and Kingsley will both be at Geelong next year. The chances of Thompson staying is getting greater by the day. If he stay's he'll give Kingsley away for nicks as their relationship is the cancer causing the problems at Geelong at the moment.

He's a half decent full forward when in form and would give us time to brink Hughes and Limbach on. Could he also be one of those guys that goes back after playing so much of his career as a forward. If he comes at a reasonable wage and free in terms of what we have to give up (i.e. a 4th round pick or a player that we would probably delist anyway), it wouldn't be too bad an idea IMO.

 

[zips]

Kent Kingsley?? :rofl :rofl
What a dud! no thanks.

 

[BrisTiger24]

Kent Kingsley??    :rofl :rofl
What a dud!  no thanks.

Kicked 57 goals last year...is about to turn 28...we have worse duds. If my coach was tapping my girlfriend, I'd have trouble playing for him as well. As he is not currently playing like he did last year, people write him off as a dud.

 

[zips]

Kent Kingsley??    :rofl :rofl
What a dud!  no thanks.

Kicked 57 goals last year...is about to turn 28...we have worse duds.  If my coach was tapping my girlfriend, I'd have trouble playing for him as well.  As he is not currently playing like he did last year, people write him off as a dud.

Has too many *smile* days. I'd rather continue using Schulz down there for a number of reasons:
1. Works harder to create a contest in our forward line
2. Is a better kick for goal - Kingsley's kicking efforts make Richo look like a regular sharpshooter
3. Is a better contested mark
4. Is not a soft-*smile*
5. Is a lot younger

shall I go on?? Let's use our picks on defenders & great mids.

 

[No 4]

Kent Kingsley??    :rofl :rofl
What a dud!  no thanks.

Kicked 57 goals last year...is about to turn 28...we have worse duds.  If my coach was tapping my girlfriend, I'd have trouble playing for him as well.  As he is not currently playing like he did last year, people write him off as a dud.

Has too many sh!t days.  I'd rather continue using Schulz down there for a number of reasons:
1.  Works harder to create a contest in our forward line
2.  Is a better kick for goal  -   Kingsley's kicking efforts make Richo look like a regular sharpshooter
3.  Is a better contested mark
4.  Is not a soft-*smile*
5.  Is a lot younger

shall I go on??  Let's use our picks on defenders & great mids.

Too right. if we are going to pick someone in their mid to late 20's, it must be someone who will immediately add value and bring the premiership within their short time span with Richmond. If they have not that ability, then pass. Its best to pick someone who is between low 20's to mid. They will offer at least 5 good years, as we strive to our peak, we will have a max of 3 years to win one.