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Greg Beck's summary of our senior list recruits

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This is for those who haven't read this article in the latest "Fighting Tiger" bulletin.



Tiger Talent stocks receive vital boost
Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
2:47:02 PM
Fri 10 January, 2003

Richmond had a crystal-clear priority in the recently completed AFL trade period and National Draft – bolster a midfield department that lacked the quality of depth of the best clubs going around.

That being the case, the Tigers have every right to be mighty satisfied with their recruiting efforts over the past few weeks.
Two premiership midfielders in the prime of their AFL careers – Kane Johnson and Justin Blumfield – and another couple of lively on-ballers with VFL experience – Billy Nicholls and Tim Fleming – will provide the Club’s ‘engine-room’ with a much-needed boost.


Throw in talented youngsters Jay Schulz and Daniel Sipthorp for good measure, and you have a talent-spotting campaign that the Tigers can justifiably be proud of.

Here’s Richmond Recruiting Manager Greg Beck’s assessment of the players the Tigers snared . . .

KANE JOHNSON

24, 187cm, 84kg
AFL games: 104
Goals: 44
Dual Adelaide premiership player (1997-98)

“Kane was always going to be in our sights as one of those inside midfielders that we we’re after. He’s a Victorian boy, from Croydon, who had barracked for Richmond as well, which is a bonus. When you’re going to give away your first round pick, three things have to come into it. Number one, the player you’re going to be trading for has to be an A-grade player – and Kane Johnson’s that.

Secondly, they’ve got to be around for several years, and we think Kane will be around for five or six years. Thirdly, they’ve got to add something to the team over that period of time – not just be an impact player for a year or two. Kane’s got all those three things in his favor.

Obviously he’s had a couple of niggling injuries with his hamstrings over the last couple of years, but in conjunction with the Adelaide Football Club, he finally sorted that problem out.

They worked out a program which prevented him from running two days-in-row, which is no big deal because that’s the way we train anyway. He got through that program really well this year and missed only a couple of games through appendicitis – his leg was pretty good. Kane’s an inside midfielder who gets the ball whether the side’s going well or not. He’s one of those guys who get the ball 25 times each week and he’ll pump the ball inside 50 four or five times per game. Over the period of a season, that works out to be about 100 times inside 50, which is exactly what we need – especially when things are really tight. When the game’s in the balance or you’re three or four goals down, you know that the Kane Johnson type of player is always going to be there. He’s going to be the ‘tough nut’ who gets in there and pumps the ball inside 50 to our forwards. Not only can he do that role really well, but he can also go forward and kick goals because he’s so good overhead, or he could go into defence and do a tagging job across half-back. So, all those things were pretty important factors in our decision to secure Kane Johnson.”

JUSTIN BLUMFIELD

25, 188cm, 86kg
AFL games: 130
Goals: 86
Member of Essendon’s 2000 premiership side

“With Justin, the cards fell our way and it was a last-minute deal, probably because Essendon thought they were going to get an earlier selection off two other clubs and that fell through. So, I suppose the other clubs’ loss was our gain with the fact that we got him – and got him for pick No. 30. Blumfield brings a bit the same as to what Kane does. People say that Justin’s had two ordinary years . . . he said that to us as well. But when you look at his stats for last season, he’s had the ball 350 times, he’s pumped the ball inside 50 about 50 or 60 times, rebounded almost the same and been in the top six or seven possession-gatherers at Essendon.

Now, if that’s going to be his worst year for us in the next four or five years, then that’s a bonus. And, he’s going to improve on that – there’s no doubt about that! He’ll be another player, along with Kane Johnson, who’s going to pump the ball inside 50 to feed Richardson, Ottens and Stafford. And, he’s also skilled at being able to spot targets inside 50, to the likes of Fiora, Rodan, Houlihan and Hilton – those sort of boys who can find space and finish off really well.”
 
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JAY SCHULZ

17, 192cm, 78kg
From: Woodville-West Torrens
Richmond’s No. 1 pick (No. 12 overall) in the National Draft

"Jay Schulz has had a terrific junior career. He represented SA at the under 16 nationals and after that carnival was awarded All-Australian selection. Part of that All-Australian deal was to travel to Ireland with the Australian team (to play in the International Rules series last March). He played so well over in Ireland that he was awarded the Ron Barassi Medal for being Australia’s best player against the Irish. When he came back from that tour, he locked in with Woodville-West Torrens, his SA club. Jay was still eligible to play under 17s this year, but obviously he was a bit better than that standard, so he played his first game in the under 19s in round one, played very well, got promoted to the reserves and spent all the year in the reserves. Jay’s form throughout the season was up and down . . . he played some pretty good football in patches and struggled a bit at other times. But his pedigree, and what we've seen over the last two years, indicate he's going to be a pretty good player for us. He's very agile for his size and takes a good mark. He'll play either up forward or down back -- he's got that versatility about him. He played in both key roles, forward and back for Woodville-West Torrens and in the national under 18s and we think that he can add to both ends given the fact that he is 192cm and he's still growing. If he gets a bit taller it's going to be a bonus, but he doesn't need to. And, he's got a pretty solid core. We think he's going to develop into a decent size once he gets into our weights program."

TIM FLEMING

24, 182cm, 80kg
From: Carlton’s VFL side
Richmond’s No. 2 pick (No. 41 overall) in the National Draft

"Tim Fleming came down and trained with us two years ago and we were going to rookie draft him, but Carlton beat us to the punch.

We've kept an eye on him and he's developed over the last couple of years, playing for Carlton's VFL side. A real hard, in-and-under type. Wayne Brittain said that had he been a listed player, he would have played a number of senior games for Carlton last season. He's one of those late developers – he's 24 now – but he certainly added something to Carlton's VFL team last season and we just see him as being a player who can step up and play next year, given the fact we're going to be a little bit short on our list.

You can’t expect the kids to step up straight away, and he’s just going to be another that we can rely on to play some senior football. He has got good skills . . . he runs through the lines and he runs through opposition players. He’s pretty hard at it and uncompromising. I suppose people have said that we probably need to harden up a bit and Tim will certainly add to that for us.”

BILLY NICHOLLS

21, 183cm, 81kg
From: Hawthorn
Richmond’s pick No. 3 (No. 47 overall) in the National Draft
AFL games: 6
Goals: 5
Member of Box Hill’s 2001 premiership side

“Billy had a distinguished junior career as well, and I reckon he was really unlucky to have been delisted by Hawthorn. In fact, I spoke to the recruiting manager and football manager at Hawthorn a number of times before we went to the draft and look, it was a numbers thing with them . . . they had their three picks and Billy had copped some injuries. He had ankle problems and hamstring problems, which he’d never had before. He was in the elite running group with Hawthorn in his first pre-season – he was running with Shane Crawford and those sorts of boys. Billy’s capacity to work is outstanding. In his first year at Hawthorn he played six games, including a final and he kicked a couple of goals in that final. He’s a good size – 183cm, he’s pretty good overhead, he’s pretty hard at it, and he’ll just add to our midfield mix as well and he can play straight away, too, which is important.”

DANIEL SIPTHORP

18, 187cm, 80kg
From: Calder Cannons
Richmond’s No. 4 pick (No. 62 overall) in the National Draft

“Daniel Sipthorp had a terrific season this year with Calder Cannons boy. He’s a Woodend boy who represented Vic Metro and played really well in the Nationals. He played up forward, took some strong marks and kicked goals. He’s a bit of a utility type – 187cm and really hard at it. ‘Rowdy’s’ going to be a real stop-gap in time where he can mark it up forward and kick goals or go down back and mark it in the last line of defence. He adds a bit of hardness as well. After his finals series this year (with Calder Cannons) we just thought he was going to be a good late pick and we felt a bit lucky to see him still there when our fourth pick came around on draft day. We think he’s a youngster who could develop into a pretty decent player down the track.”
 
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someone at work told me that they had heard from a friend that Kelvin Moore was a late developer but had shown very promising signs in 2002. Apparently, Richmond were not the only club keen on him. Lets hope the gamble works out!
 
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I saw a thread discussing Kelvin Moore on the Demonland site yesterday.

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Jumbo posted.
Chatting to young Kelvin Moore today and he tells me that there are 15 hopefuls training with the Dees at the moment - that is, 15 rookies. He was hopeful of being drafted but he said that the coaches were playing their cards close to their chests. He told me that training was varied and quite hard and he was coping well with the demands. He's a good kid, 6'3" ish in the old and his school coach reckons he'd make agreat CHF with the proper development. He played some outstanding games for his school, being BOG on numerous occasions. Kelvin also said that Riggers is huge and flying!!

Take care,

Jumbo

robbo_rocks_24 posted
hes the one from the yarra valley right?

what club did he play for when he was younger does anyone know?

Demonworshipper posted
Guy Rigoni was at Wednesday night's AGM to accept his 5 year certificate and Gabriel Szondy made a remark along the lines that he would be a good "acquistion" in Friday's Draft !

Jumbo posted
That's right, robbo rocks.
Don't know much about his junior footy. Probably a local Sunday comp around R'wood area. He wouldn't have played a Sat. league because one of the conditions of enrolment to Yarra is that you MUST do a Sat sport and play for the school. In August I know that the Brissy Lions were sniffing around but left him alone to his studies.

Jumbo
 
Thought some might enjoy a look at old timey Tiger recruiting. ;D
 
mightytiges said:
This is for those who haven't read this article in the latest "Fighting Tiger" bulletin.



Tiger Talent stocks receive vital boost
Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
2:47:02 PM
Fri 10 January, 2003

Richmond had a crystal-clear priority in the recently completed AFL trade period and National Draft – bolster a midfield department that lacked the quality of depth of the best clubs going around.

That being the case, the Tigers have every right to be mighty satisfied with their recruiting efforts over the past few weeks.
Two premiership midfielders in the prime of their AFL careers – Kane Johnson and Justin Blumfield – and another couple of lively on-ballers with VFL experience – Billy Nicholls and Tim Fleming – will provide the Club’s ‘engine-room’ with a much-needed boost.


Throw in talented youngsters Jay Schulz and Daniel Sipthorp for good measure, and you have a talent-spotting campaign that the Tigers can justifiably be proud of.

Here’s Richmond Recruiting Manager Greg Beck’s assessment of the players the Tigers snared . . .
And this is the MORON that caused us so many heartaches over these last 10 yrs. Remember Princess Fiona? Pav is still playing and in the GF this weekend. He was even more useless than FJ, geez he must have had (SUPER) NFI.
 
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mightytiges said:
TIM FLEMING

24, 182cm, 80kg
From: Carlton’s VFL side
Richmond’s No. 2 pick (No. 41 overall) in the National Draft

"Tim Fleming came down and trained with us two years ago and we were going to rookie draft him, but Carlton beat us to the punch.

We've kept an eye on him and he's developed over the last couple of years, playing for Carlton's VFL side.

So we wanted to rookie him 2 years before hand, but Carlton nabbed him. He didn't crack a single game at Carlton, and instead of taking him as rookie we grabbed him at pick 41?

We valued a delisted rookie as a good pick at pick 41.

No wonder we sucked for so long.
 
RUNVS said:
And this is the MORON that caused us so many heartaches over these last 10 yrs. Remember Princess Fiona? Pav is still playing and in the GF this weekend. He was even more useless than FJ, geez he must have had (SUPER) NFI.
Although we didn't draft well, we can't lay all the blame on Beck. We were years behind the other clubs in our recruiting staff (of one person). We just didn't have the finances in place to support him.

We had coaches that over-rated our list a number of times. I cringe at Frawley's "only a crumbing forward..." and Wallace's "locked and loaded" comments that gave supporters false hope. Who knows what influence they had on our drafting?

Then we handed the keys over to Greg Miller who took us on a wild ride drafting guys like Oakley-Nichols and Peterson (and others), both on a whim, in an attempt to "find the next Carey".

It's only the past few years where we've put together a list management team that is now starting to draft decent players. Given the compromised drafts of the past few years, we've done well with Conca, Ellis and Vlaustin as our first picks. Time will tell whether we're on the right tram.
 
mightytiges said:
Richmond had a crystal-clear priority in the recently completed AFL trade period and National Draft – bolster a midfield department that lacked the quality of depth of the best clubs going around.

That being the case, the Tigers have every right to be mighty satisfied with their recruiting efforts over the past few weeks.
Two premiership midfielders in the prime of their AFL careers – Kane Johnson and Justin Blumfield – and another couple of lively on-ballers with VFL experience – Billy Nicholls and Tim Fleming – will provide the Club’s ‘engine-room’ with a much-needed boost.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
 
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Tigertool said:
So we wanted to rookie him 2 years before hand, but Carlton nabbed him. He didn't crack a single game at Carlton, and instead of taking him as rookie we grabbed him at pick 41?

We valued a delisted rookie as a good pick at pick 41.

No wonder we sucked for so long.
But but ....Carlton really valued him! They said he would've played seniors (...if they valued him!)
 
good read for the lols. greg beck ruined richmond more than any other employee in the past 25 years IMO. hope you enjoy watching pav playing in the GF on saturday ya flog.
 
Ian4 said:
good read for the lols. greg beck ruined richmond more than any other employee in the past 25 years IMO. hope you enjoy watching pav playing in the GF on saturday ya flog.


.....and Franklin