SCOOP said:
To get the true value of 28 you probably have to look at 6 or 7 years of players round the 27 to 29 range and see what kind of player that yields. James Hird went 79, that doesn’t mean pick 79 is worth James Hird.
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To get the true value of 28 you probably have to look at 6 or 7 years of players round the 27 to 29 range and see what kind of player that yields. James Hird went 79, that doesn’t mean pick 79 is worth James Hird.
The true value of pick 28 is that it's another junior player coming to the club and it's high enough to give decent odds of a good player being selected. The more junior players you bring in, the higher the chance you'll have enough high-end, homegrown talent to one day challenge for a flag.
IrockZ said:
You may end up being right, but as a Richmond supporter, I certainly won't "laugh" if he doesn't make it. I want every Richmond player to succeed, whereas you will gain pleasure if he doesn't make it......certainly not the trait of a supporter...
Disco08 said:
That is the theory, but there is a large opportunity cost with every new kid. It all depends if you value the chance of pick 28 getting to 100 games (which is probably comfortably below 50%) over Jay coming good. By the reports, our valuation and Ports was pretty close, but not quite close enough
Col.W.Kurtz said:
The fact that we had traded out of two picks made getting one replacement pick all the more important. We needed to have as many picks as possible. Every club that has won a flag builds through the draft and gets as many picks as possible. Meanwhile we go the complete other way and take no notice of successful clubs.
Geelong won a flag and have more picks in this draft then us!! What does that tell people.
SCOOP said:
Fair point Scoop, but mitch morton looks a talent and only 20 and we all know that Mcmahon can play "24 yrs old" we'll add another 3 in the ND and 1 more in the PSD, thats 6 and if we include rookies angus and king to the main list thats 8 players....Doesnt look as bad when its put in context.
SCOOP said:
Clubs build through a variety of ways, true, the draft is usually the primary method but where would the 06 Swans have been without Hall?
You could well be right, we should have had those picks, on the other hand this draft may be a turkey. It seems GM and Port were pretty close on how we rated those different probabilities.
Col.W.Kurtz said:
Correct you top up with what you don't have after you have built through the draft.
Hall and Jolly. Through the trade week.
Bolton, Fosidike, Nick Mal-backflanker, Tadgh Ken-tobesuretobesure-lly, LRT, Leo Barry, Adam Schinder, Adam Goodes (pick 38-50ish) all through the draft.
We have to use the draft and all our picks to get better. Pretty Simple.
Did Miller also say that Cam Howat wasn't upgraded because he is the same type as is common on our list and that his age he should be ahead of that pack of players and then say "but if he makes it through to the rookie draft we will re-rookie him"???
If so, I can't work out that logic. If he's not good enough to be upgraded now, how is he worth an extra year on the rookie list when it could be taken up by someone who could be good enough in a few years??
If so, I can't work out that logic. If he's not good enough to be upgraded now, how is he worth an extra year on the rookie list when it could be taken up by someone who could be good enough in a few years??
2006 proud stewart renouf djerrkura edwards howard DAWES mckenzie collard petterd tippett morton schmidt.Col.W.Kurtz said:
2005 muston cook hughes mills ibbotson addison RIGGIO mckinley lower west vince gilbert sphanger.
2004 wells rusling van berlo hartlett garner little GIBSON rosa lee moore prismall ackland ezard.
2003 thurley moody jones miller mcconnell campbell NASH schmidt krueger symes shaw adcock peel.
2002 ferguson lonergan johnson urch rivers walsh CARTLEDGE shackelton merret perry jericho murphy dempster.
2001 seaby gardiner johnson armstrong rogers davidson POWELL roberts-thompson crowe reynolds brown rodan okeefe.
2000 hadley petrie ablett coughlan birss richards GREENE charman rocca campbell hunt pike lonie
there ya go 6 picks either side of pick 28 for the last 7 drafts make what you will. some pretty handy players taken just after pick 28 in every draft. it is clearly possible to pick up a good player every draft with pick 28. imo the chance of missing with picks inside the top 40 is decreasing every yr. put simply clubs are getting better and better at picking good kids with their first 3 picks.
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