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Griffiths
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ahyeahnah said:
Does that include when he decides to jump into a pack or deciding after 7 years "I can kick 70 metres, why not try it'
He would've got us a first rounder, massive stooge job.
Waiting for Griffens to become a footballer is the typical Richmond footballer story.
10 years in the system with very little output.
zippadeee said:
So, Zips, with your astute knowledge. If Hampson does an ACL in the pre-season, who would you have ruck for us in 2017, with presumably TV gone along with GRIFFITHS? Soldo, an 18 year-old draftee, Elton, Rioli? Maybe Will Minson traded for pick 42?
Of course I have. Maybe we are all the same; it's hard to quantify. Certainly the WBFC has demonstrated amazing unity from top to bottom of the club over the last couple years most aptly proven by the total 'buy-in' by the players behind Bevo and all the coaching group. Don't believe that is the case at our club. Sometimes it seems to me that on PRE, there are a lot of posters who revel in the player assassinations even more than wanting success. Winning AFL flags requires enormous positive effort and will.
In the end, just a perception.
In the end, just a perception.
i understand what you are saying, but i can assure you that we tigers fans would be buying in just as much as all other clubs if our captain and coach were lifting the cup with yellow and black confetti. Your perception is real but doggies fans were in our predicament 4 years ago.leon said:
Yep, they have provided a blueprint. And I am totally with an attacking, relentless game-plan. Anyway, we have got way off the subject of this thread, so ... I hope to see a big future from Griffiths. At least as good a player as T. Boyd or J. Roughead in ability.
leon said:
No Leon. I was there. I saw it. He played very well that night. But it was in his 8th year of AFL football. Those performances from Griffiths are as frequent as Halley's Comet. And he didn't perform anywhere near that level for the rest of the season. Like many at RFC he gives glimpses but nothing more; chronic under performers.
Yes we do persist at RFC. We persist with under performing players and coaches. Yet we wonder why we never get anywhere.
leon said:
Don't get too caught up in the romance of yesterday. Dogs supporters I know were brutal on their players and coaches in McCartney's reign. They also stopped going to games in droves. Dahlhaus noticed it - mentioned the 15k at training on Thursday and compared it to a home game crowd a few years ago.
If we had a forward thinking coach that took the game plan to new frontiers rather than dismally copy others, demanded the highest standards in contested football and tackling, dropped senior / star players that weren't following these standards, and still managed to play high-octane entertaining footy in the process, I'd say we'd be a pretty united lot.
We were all pretty united in 2013 and last year. Unfortunately our players couldn't fly on the wings of our fans incredible passion and emotion and instead feel off at the first sign of turbulence
HR said:
Reason for hope. I think I simply meant that many on PRE are so cynical and negative. Dogs fans at least got behind Gordon, Beveridge and club over last couple of years. We did make finals last three but came up short. Now so many posters, as TM describes it, are busy throwing the toys out of the cot.
You have to keep on believing, rather than just slag off most players and personnel at the club. Everyone wants the same thing ultimately.
Lazarus said:
OK, I concede I laid it on a bit thick. Fans often vent their frustrations on players, to be expected. But WBFC have shown enormous resilience and persistence to get behind their club over recent years to achieve this flag after a 62-year drought. Unity is crucial ultimately.
Prince Gwilliam said:
Good response, no problem with most of this. But other posters like TM have pointed out, TBF, that the Doggies were not as affected by the compromised drafts as we were. I think that led to our inevitable drop-off, along with a really poor recruiting staff led by faltering Francis J. We have had to go backwards to go forwards. Since have drafted some players who can step up to the game-style you describe (we bloody well hope).
It's a really exasperating and frustrating journey, but maybe not as unattainable as so many think. After all, only one team in the finals, with a huge HG advantage, lost by a lesser margin than we did in our match against the Dogs.
If one thing is true of the Bulldogs it is this: they are never out of the contest. Individually or as a team
Football doesn't have to be complicated. If all 18 players refuse to get beaten and make 2nd and 3rd and 4th efforts then the team is never out of it. If the players behind the ball feel confident to attack the ball because they know that their teammates will do this then you get this constant rolling momentum that forces the ball forward. If you have 1 or 2 (CEllis/Markov/BEllis/Edwards) outside players who attack at speed then you can split sides open.
Football doesn't have to be complicated. If all 18 players refuse to get beaten and make 2nd and 3rd and 4th efforts then the team is never out of it. If the players behind the ball feel confident to attack the ball because they know that their teammates will do this then you get this constant rolling momentum that forces the ball forward. If you have 1 or 2 (CEllis/Markov/BEllis/Edwards) outside players who attack at speed then you can split sides open.
KnightersRevenge said:
But it is the desperate and fierce inside players that we lack who just throw themselves in fearlessly, or enough of them. Swans Kennedy is the master type, the template for this and would have won the NS if his team could have backed him up. We have no-one like this; Dusty is more an outside player. Hannebery is another one, equally proficient inside and out but was bashed up and damaged.
But the other aspect of the Dogs that impresses me is that their guys are light-bodied: Libba, Hunter, CSmith, Macrae, Picken, Dahlhaus, McLean, Daniel, even Bontempelli is tall but not heavily built. However, they put their bodies into the heat of the packs and get the ball out, or a free. They have such a large number of players willing and able to do this well. Beveridge has inspired great courage in this crew; but probable reason for high injury rate too.
