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Saw this bloke pull out of a one on one when the ball was on the deck and he and an opposition player (late in the 2016 season but forget the game unfortunately) who was much smaller were going for it and running directly towards one another. He pulled out and I’ve never seen anything more damning than that action.

The man is a coward and should not be at Richmond; he is a footballing liability and another indictment against the coach if he cannot see something as obvious as this. In fact this sort of bruise free football has flourished under Hardwick and both should be sent packing.
 
leon said:
Good response, no problem with most of this. But other posters like TM have pointed out, TBF, that the Doggies were not as affected by the compromised drafts as we were. I think that led to our inevitable drop-off, along with a really poor recruiting staff led by faltering Francis J. We have had to go backwards to go forwards. Since have drafted some players who can step up to the game-style you describe (we bloody well hope).

Sorry, how were the Bulldogs less affected by the compromised drafts less than us?
 
tigertim said:
Sorry, how were the Bulldogs less affected by the compromised drafts less than us?
This is a bewildering comment for me too. I think they just made better chioces with what they had and lost more experience than most teams. No excuses. They were affected more than most i would have thunk.
 
tigertim said:
Sorry, how were the Bulldogs less affected by the compromised drafts less than us?

Frankly, I think it's been covered thoroughly on PRE for anyone following numerous threads by the data/draft experts on here, particularly well by TM from memory, as I stated. Had a look but not so good with the search mechanisms on PRE myself.

However, it basically runs that, as the bounty picks for GC and GWS finally eased over 2012-14, the Bulldogs had better picks than us from finishing lower, especially in 2013-14, than RFC. Whereas we were at a very low ebb over the crucial 2009-11 years but had precious few high picks in those drafts. So Dogs got Macrae pick 6 in 2012, the Bont with pick 4 in 2013. Did these guys have an impact in the GF?

This is not to say that they haven't used their selections more astutely than us. They have killed it with their late and rookie picks. Again, myself and others have commented on this elsewhere. It might be even more about the type of player selected and what their club has been able to extract from this squad more than their actual abilities though.
 
leon said:
This is not to say that they haven't used their selections more astutely than us. They have killed it with their late and rookie picks. Again, myself and others have commented on this elsewhere. It might be even more about the type of player selected and what their club has been able to extract from this squad more than their actual abilities though.

Yes, I would agree with this assessment.
 
leon said:
Frankly, I think it's been covered thoroughly on PRE for anyone following numerous threads by the data/draft experts on here, particularly well by TM from memory, as I stated. Had a look but not so good with the search mechanisms on PRE myself.

However, it basically runs that, as the bounty picks for GC and GWS finally eased over 2012-14, the Bulldogs had better picks than us from finishing lower, especially in 2013-14, than RFC. Whereas we were at a very low ebb over the crucial 2009-11 years but had precious few high picks in those drafts. So Dogs got Macrae pick 6 in 2012, the Bont with pick 4 in 2013. Did these guys have an impact in the GF?

This is not to say that they haven't used their selections more astutely than us. They have killed it with their late and rookie picks. Again, myself and others have commented on this elsewhere. It might be even more about the type of player selected and what their club has been able to extract from this squad more than their actual abilities though.

The argument doesn't stack up Leonie. It's a falsehood that has been bandied on here for a long time.
 
Well, when you provide such convincing, in-depth analysis and counter-argument like that, it's no wonder.
But you only need to waffle on and fire cheap-shots, all in the 3rd person, because you're LazyDaisy ... right.

Anyway, I tried to re-direct my posts here a few back. It doesn't belong on the Griffiths thread.
 
Leysy Days said:
The argument doesn't stack up Leonie. It's a falsehood that has been bandied on here for a long time.

Nonsense of the highest order.
 
leon said:
Frankly, I think it's been covered thoroughly on PRE for anyone following numerous threads by the data/draft experts on here, particularly well by TM from memory

This bit didn't help :hihi
 
Two points the Dogs have done far better with their selections than us no doubt.

Secondly as far as pick selection was concerned we were the club most effected.

That doesnt say we couldn't have picked better players.

It purely says if pick 4 is worth more than pick 10 then we were effected worse than any other team.

Mind you on that basis dogs were not that far behind us.
 
Mappa said:
Two points the Dogs have done far better with their selections than us no doubt.

Secondly as far as pick selection was concerned we were the club most effected.

That doesnt say we couldn't have picked better players.

It purely says if pick 4 is worth more than pick 10 then we were effected worse than any other team.

Mind you on that basis dogs were not that far behind us.

Why bothering mentioning it at all maps?

No one cares.

We could be contending like the Dogs are. We aren't.

We *smile*ed it up. No one else.
 
have a look at their father son benefits. Tony Libba, Cordy, Hunter, Wallace (didnt play) this also helps in getting talent with higher picks
 
Baron Samedi said:
Why bothering mentioning it at all maps?

No one cares.

We could be contending like the Dogs are. We aren't.

We *smile*ed it up. No one else.

I care, I am interested in reading it.

I don't care for your sanctimonious posting, but I'll still read it occasionally.
 
BT Tiger said:
I care, I am interested in reading it.

I don't care for your sanctimonious posting, but I'll still read it occasionally.

LOL, otherwise you couldn't add that last line eh :hihi

Crikey, all types
 
The argument isn't a falsehood, it isn't nonsense of the highest order, and it isn't a *smile* argument. You may not agree with it, but all that is hyperbole. It was a factor that impeded our ability to rebuild. Other sides might have dealt with that impediment much better than us, sure. There were a lot of other factors, sure. But that the compromised drafts were a structural factor that impeded our ability to rebuild can't be denied.
 
rocsta75 said:
have a look at their father son benefits. Tony Libba, Cordy, Hunter, Wallace (didnt play) this also helps in getting talent with higher picks

Great long-term family planning vision by the Dogs.