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Disco08 said:
He has excellent general awareness. Watch the Hawks game again if you need reminding. It's impossible to control what happens to you in the situation he found himself in today. Many players get concussed in similar circumstances and it has nothing whatsoever to do with them being injury prone.
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When falling down, the first natural move is to use hands to prevent or soften the impact, he didn't.

Must be a coincidence in that he gets injured badly way too often even for a large body. It's just something he'll have to be more 'aware' of.
 
spook said:
That's where you're wrong I reckon mate. He's been growing all that time. Give his body a chance to settle down. As they say in basketball, if you're big you get five years to show you can't play. He's had three. Gets two more. And even then he'll have had one year less than Gumbleton and Essendon hasn't given up on him (although I suspect they'll trade him if anyone wants him).
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And that could be that case. I don't dispute that but that's the best case. As it stands, the pick is wasted.

Needs to improve dramatically to break even.

bullus_hit said:
Linking the shoulders with the concussion is drawing a very long bow. At least he's putting his body on the line and mixing it with some of the more hardened players in the competition. Griffiths is 20, he's got another decade of football ahead of him and you want to write him off because he's been knocked out a few times? Do you remember the Hawkins incident a fortnight ago? Was that worthy of a tongue lashing in your opinion? Cut the guy some slack, you're happy to shield Post from criticism yet you refuse to give Ben any latitude, despite being 3 years younger.
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Mixing it with some of the more hardened players? How?

Tom Hawkins, yeah the bloke who kicked 34 in year three and showed enough in years one and two to persist with. The bloke who dominated on the biggest stage last year. Don't even mention him in the same breath as Grffiths. Look at the stats, Hawkins was miles ahead of Grifftihts. Crazy statement. Just wrong.
 
TigerForce said:
When falling down, the first natural move is to use hands to prevent or soften the impact, he didn't.

Must be a coincidence in that he gets injured badly way too often even for a large body. It's just something he'll have to be more 'aware' of.
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Todays incident was just awkward. One of those rare things that can happen occassionally on a footy field.
 
I suppose we could emphasise to our players that we don't want them going hard at the ball in case they injure themselves.
 
TigerForce said:
When falling down, the first natural move is to use hands to prevent or soften the impact, he didn't.

Must be a coincidence in that he gets injured badly way too often even for a large body. It's just something he'll have to be more 'aware' of.
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When you leap into a pack and suddenly something blokes your lower half you have absolutely no control after that, and no time to break your fall. It's like being tunneled in union and is why the practice is banned in almost all sports. Haven't you seent his happen to countless players ovre the years?
 
Tigersub said:
Todays incident was just awkward. One of those rare things that can happen occassionally on a footy field.
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From what I vaguely recall, he hung with other players under him and just simply fell 'head first' without placing his hands on the ground. If he fell backwards (Hawkins and Jack last year) it's understandable it couldn't be prevented.
 
SCOOP said:
And that could be that case. I don't dispute that but that's the best case. As it stands, the pick is wasted.

Needs to improve dramatically to break even.

Mixing it with some of the more hardened players? How?

Tom Hawkins, yeah the bloke who kicked 34 in year three and showed enough in years one and two to persist with. The bloke who dominated on the biggest stage last year. Don't even mention him in the same breath as Grffiths. Look at the stats, Hawkins was miles ahead of Grifftihts. Crazy statement. Just wrong.
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I think he was referring to the fact that Hawkins got stretchered off in similar circumstances, not comparing their careers, why would you anyway because Hawkins has always played forward hasn't he?
 
SCOOP said:
And that could be that case. I don't dispute that but that's the best case. As it stands, the pick is wasted.
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As it stands, the pick is undecided. The fact you can't even admit that says it all.
 
Disco08 said:
When you leap into a pack and suddenly something blokes your lower half you have absolutely no control after that, and no time to break your fall. It's like being tunneled in union and is why the practice is banned in almost all sports. Haven't you seent his happen to countless players ovre the years?
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Not with the head being the only thing hitting the ground.
 
Disco08 said:
I can't do this.
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Do what?

Main question about this bloke is nothing but why he gets injured so easily and too often. Others put in more or less impact but don't end up on the sidelines as often. Maybe SCOOP's got a point.
 
SCOOP said:
And that could be that case. I don't dispute that but that's the best case. As it stands, the pick is wasted.

Needs to improve dramatically to break even.

Mixing it with some of the more hardened players? How?

Tom Hawkins, yeah the bloke who kicked 34 in year three and showed enough in years one and two to persist with. The bloke who dominated on the biggest stage last year. Don't even mention him in the same breath as Grffiths. Look at the stats, Hawkins was miles ahead of Grifftihts. Crazy statement. Just wrong.
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So your suggesting Griffiths has reached his physical peak? You moan about Post and Browne not being given the luxury to develop at their own pace yet you're so quick to maul a guy who's had an unlucky stretch over a paltry 3 week period. How about tempering your comments with some insight into his entire season? The guy's shown plenty to suggest he's got what it takes to succeed.

And as to the Hawkins comparison, I was talking about the concussion and not their respective upsides as footballers.

Once again, it's becoming pretty clear that you'll be quick to pounce on anything which pertains to Ben's general fitness and formline.
 
Hwakins doesn't have track record of missing weeks so why mention it? It was a one off. With Griffiths it is once a month.
 
TigerForce said:
Do what?

Main question about this bloke is nothing but why he gets injured so easily and too often. Others put in more or less impact but don't end up on the sidelines as often. Maybe SCOOP's got a point.
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Agree, I could be wrong. But its a valid point to debate.
 
SCOOP said:
Hwakins doesn't have track record of missing weeks so why mention it? It was a one off. With Griffiths it is once a month.
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So he's had an unlucky run with injury, it happens fromm time to time, particularly with young players. It's pretty ironic that your other lovechild Nat Fyfe has missed plenty of football with a shoulder injury, the exact same ailment that you choose to cite when attacking Francis Jackson's penchant for risk taking.
 
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