scooty said:
Oh thats fine then. Easy. Sorry for the sarcasm, but thats what we are trying to do here. There's no guarantees of course, but I'm happy with how DH is going about it.
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Has Hardwick had the worst start to a coaching career?
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Oh thats fine then. Easy. Sorry for the sarcasm, but thats what we are trying to do here. There's no guarantees of course, but I'm happy with how DH is going about it.
scooty said:
that is two different things again Scooty
you are assuming all motivation comes just from getting wins on the board. it doesn't. read the interview with Kelly on the AFL site http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/93494/default.aspx
as he says in it, the failures early on provided them with a lot of the motivation to improve and get better, and as he says, you just have to hang in there and focus on doing the things that will improve your game
So that means we should delist every single player at the end of the season because they did not accomplish their goal of winning a premiership. We aim to win a premiership scooty, but losing games of football with players that have the potential to win a grand final one day brings us closer to that goal if they are developing properly and accomplishing what is expected of them and themselves.scooty said:
We are not in a position to be successful, but once we are that is when we have a chance of establishing a winning culture. It would be pretty patronising, demoralising and deceitful (although no-one would be fooled) to convince our players we have a winning culture. It is one of the biggest problems with junior football, winning a game is more important than development to many. This is a deleterious philosophy in my opinion; development is far more important than winning to juniors. As a club we are starting from scratch, and we have to apply this philosophy to our football for the next few years, until we are strong enough to mold a culture that will win us premierships.
Tigers of Old said:
Even the end of next season is too soon. Hardwick needs a lot of time to get this team going again! This is the first time in many many years that the club is being governed professionally, believe me it is going to take a long time to be successful again.
scooty said:
this is quite dramatic, but not very factual
our side has major deficiencies and weaknesses, most of which only practice and recruiting will repair
the idea that ANY person can swoop in and make this side win games is massively over-estimating the quality of our list
granted I had us winning about 6 for the year, but I can see what is trying to be done, and I am seeing much more future in Hardwick's losses than any of the cheap wins Wallace scrambled to get last year
So u dont belive you can win a flag with our club well maybe thats the problem we are focusing on the weak areas of someones game rather then there positives
bart cummings never enters a race without the horse beliving its unstopable
darren mcdonald australias leading greyhound trainer once said its ok to have
100 percent ability but unless your dog belives 100 percent its unbeatable then it will never win
bart cummings never enters a race without the horse beliving its unstopable
darren mcdonald australias leading greyhound trainer once said its ok to have
100 percent ability but unless your dog belives 100 percent its unbeatable then it will never win
scooty said:
no, I don't believe anyone could win a flag THIS YEAR with THIS LIST - it is a very big qualifier
I know you loathe Hardwick and are still bitter about Scott, but do you honestly think we would be winning games with this list if Scott/Wallace/Rawlings/etc were in charge?
this is the year we had to have, and we are deluded if we think its all due to the coach
I belive you could win games at richmond cuse u could i belive gary buckanarra could
what drives me nuts is the use of words like bloody good players on the oppistion wrong approch my friend whats the use in giving your oppent more belif the good clubs evan when down use words like elite excellence within there club
i bet the results would be different if they said something like good oppents but uno what were better then them if ur coach dnt expect to win well u lose i hate the loser mentality
what drives me nuts is the use of words like bloody good players on the oppistion wrong approch my friend whats the use in giving your oppent more belif the good clubs evan when down use words like elite excellence within there club
i bet the results would be different if they said something like good oppents but uno what were better then them if ur coach dnt expect to win well u lose i hate the loser mentality
U cant its fact i mean even with my own dogs they may be the slowest in australia but anyone will tell u ever since ive applid this to my training geting them fit then spend hours on the brain my dogs have competed and bet the best running slow times
glorydaysareback
Nice to have our glory days back at the Tigers!
Scooty,
Maybe we could get darren mcdonald's greyhound pyschologist/motivator to come down and address the entire RFC playing list and coaching staff about their mental approach and Wham Bam and away we will go on our winning way.
Why hasn't anybody thought of this before????
Maybe we could get darren mcdonald's greyhound pyschologist/motivator to come down and address the entire RFC playing list and coaching staff about their mental approach and Wham Bam and away we will go on our winning way.
Why hasn't anybody thought of this before????
scooty said:
ah, you got them fit first and THEN spent hours on the brain
also you are still running under the understanding that the players are downcast and believing this is a wasted year. Talk to them when you get a chance, you will be suprised by their attitude (and this is being instilled into them by the coaching group)
I have spoke to some and they use the word try to stay upbeat well try is an weak cop out should bd we are upbeat we will get there not we may or we will try
if we allow simple meaningless words come in our young guys over two to 3 years will quit
i had lunch with a fellow who is president of a local club dwn here and he said most of there young developing players have left and they cant recruit any why they havnt one a game for 12 months and he said if the culture does not change there will be nothing left to change
if we allow simple meaningless words come in our young guys over two to 3 years will quit
i had lunch with a fellow who is president of a local club dwn here and he said most of there young developing players have left and they cant recruit any why they havnt one a game for 12 months and he said if the culture does not change there will be nothing left to change
scooty said:
doesn't ring with our club though.
despite being aggressively chased, both Deleidio and Cotchin have only just recently re-signed with the club
club is at its lowest point, big dollar offers from GC17, yet they stay?
maybe because they are seeing the changes at the club and are believing it will take us somewhere
talk to Trent one day and ask him why he stayed with the club. I've followed the club a lot longer than him, but I was amazed with the belief and conviction he has in the direction we are taking
will do talk to trent and i will ask him and hope he says its becuse i want a flag thats all
and i hope he says dimma belives he will deliver a flag
the reason i didnt like spud was he use to say were cherry ripe to have a go well thats negetive should red hot for a win wether u do or not is irrelevent as long as u belive u can win
and i hope he says dimma belives he will deliver a flag
the reason i didnt like spud was he use to say were cherry ripe to have a go well thats negetive should red hot for a win wether u do or not is irrelevent as long as u belive u can win
