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Has Kane Johnson done it again!!!!!!!!!
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Whatever skybeau. :
The argument you have served up in this thread is a continuation of your criticism of Kane since the B&F night. This is despite the fact it has long since been proven that Tommy as well as the others WAS informed of his delisting prior to Kane's speech.
You have been barely able to admit it to yourself that you were wrong in your harsh and unsubstanciated claims towards the Captain of the club, when in fact it was as innocent as Kane wishing Tommy & the other players all the best.
You ARE degrading him as a person by accussing him of being unprofessional and calling his leadership into question despite your weak attempt to cover up and say you aren't.
The players and coach all seem to think Kane is a high quality person and the best man for the job. That's good enough for me.
You probably have no idea what Kane contributes as a leader and are instead nit picking and white anting him where ever possible over a few media quotes.
Pathetic.
Rosy said it best when she said there is absolutely nothing in the quote that leads me to think Kingsley is a certainty to join the Tiges. Even if KK does join us, it could be pure coincidence.
You see what you want to see.
As for keeping snide comments to myself perhaps you should do the same re our captain unless you have concrete evidence of your accusations which of course you don't. :blah
The argument you have served up in this thread is a continuation of your criticism of Kane since the B&F night. This is despite the fact it has long since been proven that Tommy as well as the others WAS informed of his delisting prior to Kane's speech.
You have been barely able to admit it to yourself that you were wrong in your harsh and unsubstanciated claims towards the Captain of the club, when in fact it was as innocent as Kane wishing Tommy & the other players all the best.
You ARE degrading him as a person by accussing him of being unprofessional and calling his leadership into question despite your weak attempt to cover up and say you aren't.
The players and coach all seem to think Kane is a high quality person and the best man for the job. That's good enough for me.
You probably have no idea what Kane contributes as a leader and are instead nit picking and white anting him where ever possible over a few media quotes.
Pathetic.
Rosy said it best when she said there is absolutely nothing in the quote that leads me to think Kingsley is a certainty to join the Tiges. Even if KK does join us, it could be pure coincidence.
You see what you want to see.
As for keeping snide comments to myself perhaps you should do the same re our captain unless you have concrete evidence of your accusations which of course you don't. :blah
I seriously doubt that after admitting his embarressment over what he let slip at the best and fairest he'd go and do it again. Of course now if we do draft Kingsley he'll cop it :
Geez we miss football.
Well said ToO, have to agree we read way too much into stuff sometimes we should become detectives.
I read it the same way as Rosy that two players training from another AFL club think we train harder than the club they came from. There is no guarantee we will draft KK.
Well said ToO, have to agree we read way too much into stuff sometimes we should become detectives.
I read it the same way as Rosy that two players training from another AFL club think we train harder than the club they came from. There is no guarantee we will draft KK.
skybeau said:
The only quotes I remember from Goldfingers are 'have a look at that' or 'geez look at her' :headscratch
Tigers of Old said:Whatever skybeau. :
The argument you have served up in this thread is a continuation of your criticism of Kane since the B&F night. This is despite the fact it has long since been proven that Tommy as well as the others WAS informed of his delisting prior to Kane's speech.
You have been barely able to admit it to yourself that you were wrong in your harsh and unsubstanciated claims towards the Captain of the club, when in fact it was as innocent as Kane wishing Tommy & the other players all the best.
You ARE degrading him as a person by accussing him of being unprofessional and calling his leadership into question despite your weak attempt to cover up and say you aren't.
The players and coach all seem to think Kane is a high quality person and the best man for the job. That's good enough for me.
You probably have no idea what Kane contributes as a leader and are instead nit picking and white anting him where ever possible over a few media quotes.
Pathetic.
Rosy said it best when she said there is absolutely nothing in the quote that leads me to think Kingsley is a certainty to join the Tiges. Even if KK does join us, it could be pure coincidence.
You see what you want to see.
As for keeping snide comments to myself perhaps you should do the same re our captain unless you have concrete evidence of your accusations which of course you don't. :blah
Continuation? Rubbish ToO. I've said it once...once... you know, one time (ok, I said it a lot during that once). And now suddenly I'm criticising him as a captain? I'm criticising him as a mouthpiece, not a person. Is that so hard to comprehend? (that goes for others on this site who'll probably criticise me too...)
As for whether they knew or not...all I had to go on was Kane's speech and Micheal Roach's comments, just like you. I drew my conclusion from those comments because I figured Micheal, at the very least, would have some idea of whats going on. I quite happily admit now that it seems that the three players knew they were done at Richmond and that some of my comments were unjustified (bolded just for you, ToO). But the fact remains that Kane's comments WERE unproffessional, even if he was trying to be the nice guy. I've read a lot of things, on here and elsewhere, that say that emotion isn't a necessary part of today's game, that its all business. But then emotion comes along and people defend it? Let me know where you draw the line. Also, how many other captains farewell delisted players when it is not official yet? It doesn't happen because it isn't sensible to allow another club to potentially gain the delisted player for free when the player's club could gain from their departure. You can't honestly say you disagree with that, ToO...
You accuse me of unjustified abuse...yet you're doing the same thing right here, right now. I vaguely remember saying one comment about finding a better option for captain...that is my SOLE comment on something other than Kane's mouthpiece abilities. And I said that he needed education in public speaking, so I was hardly condemning. I look at the other 15 captains...how many of them get seemingly "misquoted" and "misunderstood"? Not too many. Is that a good thing? Well that depends. I get sick of snide comments from opposition supporters about "Ninthmond" and "26 years"...and now they've got something else. I dunno, maybe you enjoy getting ribbed about being a Richmond supporter, but it grates sometimes with me.
Look, ToO and everyone on this site, I don't expect you guys to agree with me. My viewpoint is based on the same evidence you've all seen, but simply I've drawn a different conclusion. You can call it conspiracy theories if you want, dismiss it...but I can't. You want to burn me, go ahead. But don't expect me to conform just so the RFC captain's shield of immunity remains intact. For crying out loud, other players cop way more abuse than Kane does and yet none of you seem to care. Yet, when Kane's name crops up, you jump all over it in indignation. Double standards?
Kane has my full support as the Richmond Football Club captain (and I bet you're all gonna snigger and think "funny way of showing it", but its the truth, whether you like it or not). I just wish he'd either shut his mouth or becomes less candid (there's a better way to say that, but I'm buggered if I can think of it...sorry), because some of the things he says are not what I want to hear from our captain.
Kane's gaffe at the B&F was not so much telling the players - they already knew - but the club was actively trying to trade them. By making it public it made iot much harder for them to be traded.
Read into his Kingsley comments what you will but the very fact he is training with us, and is going to be drafted is the real disappointment - it seems to go against the PR spin TW is always pushing towards us members/supporters. If I was AK I would be feeling even more disappointed than when first told, especially considering we have more developing forwards than backs.
Read into his Kingsley comments what you will but the very fact he is training with us, and is going to be drafted is the real disappointment - it seems to go against the PR spin TW is always pushing towards us members/supporters. If I was AK I would be feeling even more disappointed than when first told, especially considering we have more developing forwards than backs.
mk33 said:
Ill add my name to that. I read the article and it was obvious that he was referring to new boys training with Richmond and comparing their training regime to their old clubs. Pretty simple English to me. But hey its created 4 pages of conversation. Thats gotta be good for footy
skybeau said:
Sounds like you're having a kingsize :dummyspit sky. There was nothing in my post to infer those who didn't know are low-lifes. I didn't say "everyone" knew. "Common" to me simply meant in the public domain, not a big secret. David knew, plenty of others knew and I certainly knew.
How about people read the actual article on the journo's board. It's petty to dissect one comment when there are so many positives in the article.
Eat 'em Alive Captain Kane. :clap
Yeah... :duh where's the embarrassed icon? 
Like I said to mk privately, I probably didn't need to say anything specifically to you or anyone else (apart from ToO)...but I was a little fired up at being called pathetic and the response I wrote...I probably let it get out of hand...where's RROFO when I need him, he's the master of cooling down before clicking the send button...
I'll remove the postscript comments. My most humble apologies to both of you.
Like I said to mk privately, I probably didn't need to say anything specifically to you or anyone else (apart from ToO)...but I was a little fired up at being called pathetic and the response I wrote...I probably let it get out of hand...where's RROFO when I need him, he's the master of cooling down before clicking the send button...
I'll remove the postscript comments. My most humble apologies to both of you.
Agree, I think too much is being made of Kane's comments. The only time I have had a problem with any of his comments was when he called the supporters fickle. That stunk. Other than that I still think he is the right candidate to be captain of the RFC.mk33 said:
