How would this be for openers?? / Starting line up for 2006: [Merged]

[Mr Brightside]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

FB Harts Gas Kellaway
HB Bowdo Shultz Jacko
C Lids Sugar Newman
HF Meyer Richo Petts
FF Pato Brown Tambling
R Simo Cogs Tuck
I Knobel Hall Hyde ?
Backs I think TW loves to have run out of the backline thats why I have Harts and Jacko and I dont think they will abandant the idea of Shultz at chb the way he played his last 2 games .If we get T *smile* i wouldnt be surprised to see him get a crack there.Never turn a possitive into a negative so leave Joel where he has made AA
Centres this is where we really do need to get some more skilled runners I think Newman could now move up to been a very good defensive wingman but still give us plenty of run.Sugar may take over from Chaf as been our NO1 tagger as he does this kind of role most weeks anyway.
Half Forward I think we will rotate our CHF a lot Richo,P Bowdo,Pato, Simo any one with an O.After his year Petts has to get his half forward role and for pure class Meyer will probally get his chance best set shot at club.
Full forward line Browny leading from square Pato/Staf in square and like a lot of gun midfielders Tambling will start out as a dangerous pocket..
Rucks Simo has shown with the opportunity he is our no1 ruck but Knobel will do his job.Tuck,Cogs they will need help Foley Sugar Polo perhaps
Plenty others will get there chance it might just be if the others can make big improvment we may just take a few more steps up the ladder

 

[the claw]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

b newman gaspar thursfield

hb bowden moore hartigan

c jackson coughlan deledio

hf brown t gaspar meyer

f tambling richardson schulz

r simmonds johnson tuck

int knobel foley hall rodan

emg pattison raines mcguane bowden.
something like this team will do me. the only player with a question mark over him about being phsically ready is meyer and moore at chb is a worry which is why i picked hall on the interchange bench as insurance.

 

[The_General]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

B Kellaway Gaspar Newman

HB J.Bowden Schulz Hartigan

C P.Bowden Coughlan Deledio

HF Pettifer Hall Tambling

F Stafford Richardson Brown

R Simmonds Johnson Tuck

Int Rodan/Foley Knobel Meyer Thursfield

Krak to play in the forward pocket if Rodan doesn't re-sign.
I saw Wallace say he'd like to see P Bowden on the wing - why I'm not sure, but he'll get time there if that's what the suntanned one wants. I'd prefer to see him and Tambling swap over, but not sure if Richie is ready for that physically.
Thursfield to take over from Kellaway when he gets injured.
Rodan can come in and play rover, or slot into the forward pocket when Stafford relieves in the ruck.
Meyer will be soley dependant on how much bulk he can put on over the summer. He's all class, but I wouldn't want to bring him in and get him banged up too early. If he doesn't play, I'd expect a Kel Moore/Jackson to step in.

 

[FIGJAM]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

I have a feeling Sargent Shultz is going to disappoint us badly. His goals in Brissy two years ago were a FLASH IN THE PAN. Can't see him emulating that again. I did hear TW say that year he did not think the boy was up to AFL standard( was said after we got pumped by PUSSIES at Telstra Dump one Saturday Night). I think I agree with him although I hope he proves me wrong. Spud gave him many opportunities (approx 16 games in the last two seasons), TW didn't give him many, even after he overcame his ankle injury.

 

[nitrotiger]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

good thread this....I reckon hally had a good year,just needs to be a little more consistent....
How about Shultzy at CHF? Got good hands,good leap and a really good roost and have richo as a loose cannon inside the 50...thats what I reckon....and been bloody impressed with kayne pettifer....He was nailing those clutch goals on a regular basis.Cheers! ;D

 

[RICHO_12]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

I reckon leave Razor at CHB he did well this year so if he keeps it up leave him there!!!!
I reckon we'll be drafting the best available talls this draft also as there seems to be a few floating around this year!!!

 

[pahoffm]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

Yeh, you might be right.

Hall did well at CHB this year. Maybe let him settle there.
At least that just leaves CHF in crisis.

If Schulz went to CHB and Hall to CHF, and both failed, well, we'd be in total crisis then.

 

[DragicevicFan]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

B - R.Hall, D.Gaspar, B. Hartigan

HB - J.Bowden, J.Schulz, C.Newman

C - B.Deledio, M.Coughlan, R.Tambling

HF - K.Pettifer, M.Richardson, C.Hyde

F - A.Krakouer, A.Pattison, D.Rodan

Foll - T.Simmonds, S.Tuck, D.Polo

Inter - T.Knobel, D.Meyer, K.Johnson, W.Thursfield

Emer - A.Gilmour, M.Clark, G.Tivendale

Coburg

M.Clark, A.Raines, M.Chaffey, T.Roach, G.Stafford, P.Bowden, D.Limbach, D.Jackson, P.Bower, W.Mills, A.Gilmour, G.Tivendale, L.McGuane, K.Moore, N.Foley, J.Simpkin, L.McEntee

Injured - N.Brown

 

[pahoffm]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

B - R.Hall, D.Gaspar, B. Hartigan

HB - J.Bowden, J.Schulz, C.Newman

C - B.Deledio, M.Coughlan, R.Tambling

HF - K.Pettifer, M.Richardson, C.Hyde

F - A.Krakouer, A.Pattison, D.Rodan

Foll - T.Simmonds, S.Tuck, D.Polo

Inter - T.Knobel, D.Meyer, K.Johnson, W.Thursfield

Emer - A.Gilmour, M.Clark, G.Tivendale

Coburg

M.Clark, A.Raines, M.Chaffey, T.Roach, G.Stafford, P.Bowden, D.Limbach, D.Jackson, P.Bower, W.Mills, A.Gilmour, G.Tivendale, L.McGuane, K.Moore, N.Foley, J.Simpkin, L.McEntee

Injured - N.Brown

I take it that you don't fancy Andy Kellaway?

 

[DragicevicFan]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

B - R.Hall, D.Gaspar, B. Hartigan

HB - J.Bowden, J.Schulz, C.Newman

C - B.Deledio, M.Coughlan, R.Tambling

HF - K.Pettifer, M.Richardson, C.Hyde

F - A.Krakouer, A.Pattison, D.Rodan

Foll - T.Simmonds, S.Tuck, D.Polo

Inter - T.Knobel, D.Meyer, K.Johnson, W.Thursfield

Emer - A.Gilmour, M.Clark, G.Tivendale

Coburg

M.Clark, A.Raines, M.Chaffey, T.Roach, G.Stafford, P.Bowden, D.Limbach, D.Jackson, P.Bower, W.Mills, A.Gilmour, G.Tivendale, L.McGuane, K.Moore, N.Foley, J.Simpkin, L.McEntee

Injured - N.Brown

I take it that you don't fancy Andy Kellaway?

Not particularly, but that was an oversight. He can take his place on the bench, with Thursfield replacing Gilmour as an emergency. However, I do hope that by the end of the season we have progressed and Kellaway is under serious pressure to hold his spot, with Moore and/or Thursfield ready to take over.

 

[lamb22]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

I have a feeling Sargent Shultz is going to disappoint us badly. His goals in Brissy two years ago were a FLASH IN THE PAN. Can't see him emulating that again. I did hear TW say that year he did not think the boy was up to AFL standard( was said after we got pumped by PUSSIES at Telstra Dump one Saturday Night). I think I agree with him although I hope he proves me wrong. Spud gave him many opportunities (approx 16 games in the last two seasons), TW didn't give him many, even after he overcame his ankle injury.

Must disagree with you Nathan, I think our expectations have led to the belief that Schulz has been around for ever and failed to deliver.  These perceptions can be very dangerous for players.  They ultimately proved to be terminal for Hilton who only played a poor year in 2003 and was good or serviceable in the other years he played for us, yet you will have many posters here  prattle on about his continued failure to deliver.  In relation to Shulzy I offer the following

Fact 1 - Schulz has played only 25 games, 5 in 2003, 16 in 2004 and 4 in 2005. In most of his games in 2003 and 2004 he played predominantly as a bench player. I would suggest that in actual game time he has played the equivalent of 10 - 12 games. In fact the only two full games, I have seen him play were the brisbane game where he kicked 6 and the last game at Geelong where he played CHB. In both games I had him in Richmonds best three.  He also had 11 possessions in half a game against the hawks in the second last round and IMO won us the game with his forward work in the last 15 minuites.

Fact 2 - Schulz will still only be 20 when Round 1, 2006 comes around. In fact he is only 10 and a half months older than Pattison - so a fairer comparison would be how he's stacking up against Patto.

My opinion - Schulzy is a better kick and mark than Riewoldt. Is as hard at the ball as Riewoldt and is harder at the man than Riewoldt. His footy smarts when he is in the contest is top class. His weaknesses appear to be his intensity, urgency and work off the ball, but this may also be related to playing to a poor midfield (and in the past with a poor coach and system).   He is also probably not as clean as he should be below his knees but has plenty of mobility and agility.  His other problems are injuries which I think will haunt him because he just takes no prisoners or short steps when attacking the ball. He puts his body in the firing line and will suffer from time to time.

I see him as the next great CHF potentially better than Tredrea or Brown, but I think Terry is right in playing him at this stage if career at CHB to get him in the action and where the ball is and not where it aint.  I also think Terry was proving a point by requiring a certain level of intensity and consistency in the 2s before getting a game in the firsts last year, probably to our detriment because we probably would have beaten the bullies in round 20 with Jay up forward instead of Moore.  I also think that we could have pinched the geelong game with Jay up forward in the last.

Give him game time and a good run with injury and he will reward the tiger faithful. In fact , Schulz, Cogs and Deledio will probably be the key to our next premiership.

CEO of the Shulz/Pettifer faction signing off!
     

 

[Mr Brightside]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

Great defence of The Sarge there well put :clap.Besides the obvious CHB/CHF worry I think Will is crucial to our rise up the ladder as we dont have any tall backs with great closing speed Wil seems to have this but as we all know could do with a few more pounds

 

[lamb22]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

Great defence of The Sarge there well put :clap.Besides the obvious CHB/CHF worry I think Will is crucial to our rise up the ladder as we dont have any tall backs with great closing speed Wil seems to have this but as we all know could do with a few more pounds

Agree, along with Tuck, Will was the real bonus from last year. If he can bulk up and hold CHB in 2007 and Schulzy has progressed enough to play CHF, then maybe jusy maybe, with Gaspar and Richo offering something in their later years we could pinch the holy grail. A goal to goal line of Gaspar, Thursfield, Cogs, Schulz and Richo complemented by the class of Lids, Brown, Tambling, Bowden and Meyer and the grunt of Tuck, Foley, Johnson and Polo could do the trick!

 

[Tango]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

as far as *smile* go i agree with everything you said Lamb, not sure about gaspar being in our premiership side though.

 

[Anduril]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

Gas will be there! ;D

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

Must disagree with you Nathan, I think our expectations have led to the belief that Schulz has been around for ever and failed to deliver.  These perceptions can be very dangerous for players.  They ultimately proved to be terminal for Hilton who only played a poor year in 2003 and was good or serviceable in the other years he played for us, yet you will have many posters here  prattle on about his continued failure to deliver.  In relation to Shulzy I offer the following

Fact 1 - Schulz has played only 25 games, 5 in 2003, 16 in 2004 and 4 in 2005. In most of his games in 2003 and 2004 he played predominantly as a bench player. I would suggest that in actual game time he has played the equivalent of 10 - 12 games. In fact the only two full games, I have seen him play were the brisbane game where he kicked 6 and the last game at Geelong where he played CHB. In both games I had him in Richmonds best three.  He also had 11 possessions in half a game against the hawks in the second last round and IMO won us the game with his forward work in the last 15 minuites.

Fact 2 - Schulz will still only be 20 when Round 1, 2006 comes around. In fact he is only 10 and a half months older than Pattison - so a fairer comparison would be how he's stacking up against Patto.

My opinion - Schulzy is a better kick and mark than Riewoldt. Is as hard at the ball as Riewoldt and is harder at the man than Riewoldt. His footy smarts when he is in the contest is top class. His weaknesses appear to be his intensity, urgency and work off the ball, but this may also be related to playing to a poor midfield (and in the past with a poor coach and system).   He is also probably not as clean as he should be below his knees but has plenty of mobility and agility.  His other problems are injuries which I think will haunt him because he just takes no prisoners or short steps when attacking the ball. He puts his body in the firing line and will suffer from time to time.

I see him as the next great CHF potentially better than Tredrea or Brown, but I think Terry is right in playing him at this stage if career at CHB to get him in the action and where the ball is and not where it aint.  I also think Terry was proving a point by requiring a certain level of intensity and consistency in the 2s before getting a game in the firsts last year, probably to our detriment because we probably would have beaten the bullies in round 20 with Jay up forward instead of Moore.  I also think that we could have pinched the geelong game with Jay up forward in the last.

Give him game time and a good run with injury and he will reward the tiger faithful. In fact , Schulz, Cogs and Deledio will probably be the key to our next premiership.

     

Fantastic post Lamby. Love your work :clap.
The Sarge will be a player for us. I think he'll improve dramatically this year and even more the next.

 

[the claw]

Re: Starting line up for 2006:

I have a feeling Sargent Shultz is going to disappoint us badly. His goals in Brissy two years ago were a FLASH IN THE PAN. Can't see him emulating that again. I did hear TW say that year he did not think the boy was up to AFL standard( was said after we got pumped by PUSSIES at Telstra Dump one Saturday Night). I think I agree with him although I hope he proves me wrong. Spud gave him many opportunities (approx 16 games in the last two seasons), TW didn't give him many, even after he overcame his ankle injury.

Must disagree with you Nathan, I think our expectations have led to the belief that Schulz has been around for ever and failed to deliver.  These perceptions can be very dangerous for players.  They ultimately proved to be terminal for Hilton who only played a poor year in 2003 and was good or serviceable in the other years he played for us, yet you will have many posters here  prattle on about his continued failure to deliver.  In relation to Shulzy I offer the following

Fact 1 - Schulz has played only 25 games, 5 in 2003, 16 in 2004 and 4 in 2005. In most of his games in 2003 and 2004 he played predominantly as a bench player. I would suggest that in actual game time he has played the equivalent of 10 - 12 games. In fact the only two full games, I have seen him play were the brisbane game where he kicked 6 and the last game at Geelong where he played CHB. In both games I had him in Richmonds best three.  He also had 11 possessions in half a game against the hawks in the second last round and IMO won us the game with his forward work in the last 15 minuites.

Fact 2 - Schulz will still only be 20 when Round 1, 2006 comes around. In fact he is only 10 and a half months older than Pattison - so a fairer comparison would be how he's stacking up against Patto.

My opinion - Schulzy is a better kick and mark than Riewoldt. Is as hard at the ball as Riewoldt and is harder at the man than Riewoldt. His footy smarts when he is in the contest is top class. His weaknesses appear to be his intensity, urgency and work off the ball, but this may also be related to playing to a poor midfield (and in the past with a poor coach and system).   He is also probably not as clean as he should be below his knees but has plenty of mobility and agility.  His other problems are injuries which I think will haunt him because he just takes no prisoners or short steps when attacking the ball. He puts his body in the firing line and will suffer from time to time.

I see him as the next great CHF potentially better than Tredrea or Brown, but I think Terry is right in playing him at this stage if career at CHB to get him in the action and where the ball is and not where it aint.  I also think Terry was proving a point by requiring a certain level of intensity and consistency in the 2s before getting a game in the firsts last year, probably to our detriment because we probably would have beaten the bullies in round 20 with Jay up forward instead of Moore.  I also think that we could have pinched the geelong game with Jay up forward in the last.

Give him game time and a good run with injury and he will reward the tiger faithful. In fact , Schulz, Cogs and Deledio will probably be the key to our next premiership.

CEO of the Shulz/Pettifer faction signing off!
     

has shown nothing 1 more poor yr and he will be gone.at this stage has dud written all over him.

 

[TigerMasochist]

I'm with the sheepherder on this one. Think the sergeant is ready to step up.
Would like to see Richo at CHF and Schultzy at FF, that game against Hawthorn last year he charged the contest and fed off brilliantly a couple of times. Would also make it a lot easier for the smalls to feed off him as no-one can figure out where Richo is going to run to or keep up with him when he goes.
Have already backed the petrified one on another thread, think he will make a player for us. Maybe not a crash and bash merchant but he links and uses the ball well.

 

[momentai]

B Hartigen Gaspar Kellaway
HB Bowden(capt) Schulz Johnson
C Tambling Deledio Muston*
HF Hall Gaspar* Pettifer
F Brown(v capt) Richo(v capt) Tuck
R Simmo Coughlan Rodan
Res Bowden*Knoble Meyer Newman.
Em Hyde Mcguane Pattison and Polo

Chaffey, Krak, Staff and Tiv aren't in my best 25 and unless Krak can improve his stamina I think he will join the other three on the delist list at seasons end.Staff imo should have been delisted this year and I don't have great hopes about his contribution in 06. :-\

I think we might take G2 in the pre season but if not him then Shaw,who would be my preference.

I'd expect the emergencies plus Myer, Foley and Thursfield to play b/w 8 and 12 games next year.I also expect Muston (d/p 8,) and Tambling to be for us in 06 what Lids was to us this year. 

Two smokey's next year..Mcguane and Polo will make things particularly difficult for the likes of B2, Chaff, Krak and Tiv. Gilmour could also surprise.