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"IF" RFC decide to delist Richo at the end of the year.....

Massai said:
I don't have an issue with it either, if a few select people go thru the list and cull players, at least its done by a group of people who think the player is not up to speed, no recriminations that the coach had it in for so and so etc.

That's cool mate I was responding to this post which threw me a bit...

Massai said:
Yep well said, :clap I note that Gary March has said that whoever coaches next, will not have the absolute say in who stays and who goes, which I find somewhat worrying.
 
Should of gone at the end of the year anyway. It is time the RFC rebuilds (again) and the big man should be tapped on the shoulder and said we need to move on.
 
Tubytiger said:
Should of gone at the end of the year anyway. It is time the RFC rebuilds (again) and the big man should be tapped on the shoulder and said we need to move on.

Christ, Richmond could almost CULL the entire playing list. Problem is Gold Coast and Western Sydney are coming onboard (nice to see GC get $135 Million or so to redevelop their football ground), so players in the next few drafts are going to be iffy at best.

I reckon the Tigers could get rid of 10 players at seasons end, which would most likely include Simmonds, Brown, Bowden and Johnson all retired. So that is 4 of the 6 we have in the playing list over 30. Richardson I'd keep provided that the medical advice given is sound that he can play on for next season. Cousins likewise. Both are inspirational players, Cousins can continue to contribute some much needed experience and advice to the midfielders, Richo he's the heart and soul of this club, his presence around the place and his gut busting effort on the field again inspirational and hopefully that will be taken up by the younger players.

Up to 6 other players could be gone at seasons end, just who they are is anyone's guess, given the diversity of opinion within PRE on the subject.
 
Massai said:
Christ, Richmond could almost CULL the entire playing list. Problem is Gold Coast and Western Sydney are coming onboard (nice to see GC get $135 Million or so to redevelop their football ground), so players in the next few drafts are going to be iffy at best.

I reckon the Tigers could get rid of 10 players at seasons end, which would most likely include Simmonds, Brown, Bowden and Johnson all retired. So that is 4 of the 6 we have in the playing list over 30. Richardson I'd keep provided that the medical advice given is sound that he can play on for next season. Cousins likewise. Both are inspirational players, Cousins can continue to contribute some much needed experience and advice to the midfielders, Richo he's the heart and soul of this club, his presence around the place and his gut busting effort on the field again inspirational and hopefully that will be taken up by the younger players.

Up to 6 other players could be gone at seasons end, just who they are is anyone's guess, given the diversity of opinion within PRE on the subject.

The future is without Richo - i love the guy. But get over all the dramatics mate. Tough decisions have to be made at the end of the year and this is the biggest of all if we are to move forward.
 
I'm happy to leave it to the new coach's call.

I've enjoyed the Richo years, but we do need to really start building a new forward line without him.

The next 10 weeks should be interesting to see how we can manufacture goals without Richo's input.
 
Tubytiger said:
The future is without Richo - i love the guy. But get over all the dramatics mate. Tough decisions have to be made at the end of the year and this is the biggest of all if we are to move forward.

I don't think the issue of Richo playing on is the biggest issue this club faces not by a long shot.

I know that we won't have Richo for much longer, who knows the big fella may pull the plug end of season himself. However I wouldn't *smile* can all our older players just because of the age issue.

Keep Richo for next season, keep him out on a Wing with specific instructions to go only between the two 50 metre arc's. He can kick goals from outside the 50 anyway.

Richo should not play in the forward 50, he really shouldn't. Besides in our list we've got Jay *smile* supposed to be a KPP CHF or Adam Pattison also a KPP CHF, Cleve Hughes KPP FF, Jack Riewoldt maybe KPP CHF/FF. STRANGE HOW HARDLY ANY OF THEM HAVE PLAYED TOGETHER FOR A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF GAMES IN A ROW.

Just out of interest, have *smile*, Hughes, Pattison and Riewoldt played an AFL game together?????

That is the fault of the Coaching Staff and Match Committee, who are too *smile* scared to try and take some risks on putting *smile*, Hughes, Riewoldt and Pattison along with Morton and Nahas into the one forward zone, yet that is what they were recruited for.

Again the Coaching Staff are falling down by not instructing players to kick the ball to the Richmond Player in the most favorable forward position, in other words "don't kick it to Richo" and how many bloody times have they done so, Richo outnumbered by defenders, whilst there is a lone Tiger or a Tiger One on One, 40 metres away, Richo does not deserve the blame for the stupidity of the coaching staff at Richmond.

Even at 35 he will be a handful for just about every team that Richmond play, which will take a bit of the heat off the younger players given them some space and time to develop just that little bit more.

Basically, if Richo goes, it will leave one hell of a big hole that ain't going to be filled. The younger players are lacking in development and they are lacking in confidence. They are also lacking in onfield leadership, a couple of older players are required to steady things down a bit on field when the *smile* hits the fan and it most certainly will.

I suppose we'll find out at the end of the season when the "List Management" team make up their collective minds as to who is staying and who is definitely going.
 
Massai said:
I don't think the issue of Richo playing on is the biggest issue this club faces not by a long shot.

I know that we won't have Richo for much longer, who knows the big fella may pull the plug end of season himself. However I wouldn't sh!t can all our older players just because of the age issue.

Keep Richo for next season, keep him out on a Wing with specific instructions to go only between the two 50 metre arc's. He can kick goals from outside the 50 anyway.

Richo should not play in the forward 50, he really shouldn't. Besides in our list we've got Jay schulz supposed to be a KPP CHF or Adam Pattison also a KPP CHF, Cleve Hughes KPP FF, Jack Riewoldt maybe KPP CHF/FF. STRANGE HOW HARDLY ANY OF THEM HAVE PLAYED TOGETHER FOR A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF GAMES IN A ROW.

Just out of interest, have schulz, Hughes, Pattison and Riewoldt played an AFL game together?????

That is the fault of the Coaching Staff and Match Committee, who are too sh!t scared to try and take some risks on putting schulz, Hughes, Riewoldt and Pattison along with Morton and Nahas into the one forward zone, yet that is what they were recruited for.

Again the Coaching Staff are falling down by not instructing players to kick the ball to the Richmond Player in the most favorable forward position, in other words "don't kick it to Richo" and how many bloody times have they done so, Richo outnumbered by defenders, whilst there is a lone Tiger or a Tiger One on One, 40 metres away, Richo does not deserve the blame for the stupidity of the coaching staff at Richmond.

Even at 35 he will be a handful for just about every team that Richmond play, which will take a bit of the heat off the younger players given them some space and time to develop just that little bit more.

Basically, if Richo goes, it will leave one hell of a big hole that ain't going to be filled. The younger players are lacking in development and they are lacking in confidence. They are also lacking in onfield leadership, a couple of older players are required to steady things down a bit on field when the sh!t hits the fan and it most certainly will.

I suppose we'll find out at the end of the season when the "List Management" team make up their collective minds as to who is staying and who is definitely going.


Another long winded response which i cant be bothered with. He isnt the future of the RFC. Get over it. Gee should of made that in capitals....Od course if he goes he will leave a big hole but someone else has to step up. Honestly i want this club to move forward not stay in the past champ. If you want Richo to stay around then fair enough. Ive had enough of the dummy spitting and kick it to richo mentality at the club.
 
Barring major issues with his recovery there's very little doubt that Richo will play next season ILO.

Good thing as well.
 
deledio3 said:
I would seriously consider not renewing my membership after 10 years in a row.

On sky news tonight's sport report, TW interviewed over Richo, look's like RFC are about to send him to Germany like they did with Cogs and get that special calf's blood put into his hamstring so he can come back asap. TW wants Richo back on the ground as soon as they can, Dr Peter Larkins thinks it can be done if they go to the expense of this treatment.

Richo could be in Germany within a fortnight and back again a month. Seems to me, the club has factored Richo in for another season by all this.
 
All brings up the question of who to elevate from the rookie list for Richo on the LTIL.

Gourdis - the true Key Forward replacement.

or

Browne - as a swap for Simmonds or Pattison who then takes Richo's spot as the forward.

Either one would be OK but I guess we'll go with Gilligan. ::)
 
I was lucky enough to be introduced to the big guy by Fricks last year and i have to say i could not be more impressed by him as a person. Fricks summed it up perfectly to me a few days ago when he said old players are retired because they are too slow and have lost their power but here we are talking about retiring the most athletic tall player in the afl with the biggest engine and who only buddy would keep up with over 100m but he happens to be 34 so we retire him because of a number and not his ability?????

that makes a lot of sence - NOT
 
Phantom said:
Hopefully the RFC & Richo can come to an agreement about him retiring at the end of the year.

Hopefully Bowden can take up the position of Captain-Coach of Coburg, with a skills role for the RFC.

And Kane Johnson can be a RFC Assistant Coach.

And Simmonds can take over as Ruck coach.

Of course, Simmonds & Bowden would have "trade" value.
theres only one there whos had any sort of success johnson dont know what he has to offer but going by the way he captained the side id say not much.

simmonds bowden richo in official roles i dont think so we only want successful people having anything to do with running the show.what have these three ever done as far as winning games and achieving the ultimate. answer nothing they wouldnt know success if they fell over it.
all this kiss me hug me sentimental crap has no place in the runnings of a footy club.
 
Richo has presence, no other tiger player is at the same level. I don't think that Richo is holding any other players back in developing, if they were better then they'd step up but haven't.

Also on SEN today, heard that Malthouse was lobbying to create an extra bench position to keep the 'special' players longer as hitmen, with special quick tasks and off again... sounds like the stars are aligning?
 
Mr T. said:
Richo has presence, no other tiger player is at the same level. I don't think that Richo is holding any other players back in developing, if they were better then they'd step up but haven't.

Also on SEN today, heard that Malthouse was lobbying to create an extra bench position to keep the 'special' players longer as hitmen, with special quick tasks and off again... sounds like the stars are aligning?
i hope u dont mean Mad Mick as coach....happy if u r just talking extra spot for richo but mick is full of *smile*...that extra spot would just be takin by another five minute midfielder.
 
ROLLS ROYCE said:
i hope u dont mean Mad Mick as coach....happy if u r just talking extra spot for richo but mick is full of sh!t...that extra spot would just be takin by another five minute midfielder.

but why would he use richo like tat when richo can run a game out better than other players?
 
Nah, you missed my point...Mick wants another spot on the bench to keep the "special" players in the game...what crap.....that extra spot would only be filled by another midfielder and create more rotations.
 
ROLLS ROYCE said:
i hope u dont mean Mad Mick as coach....happy if u r just talking extra spot for richo but mick is full of sh!t...that extra spot would just be takin by another five minute midfielder.
An extra spot for Richo, but you're probably right about given to mid.