In Hindsight

[Knighter]

Gee, it's such an early call to pillory the Judd deal just 9 games in......... and an equally premature call on Cotchin, as good as we think he is so far.

Hang on there Racey......

Moore's was a dud, Richo should have retired, Cotchin already has 3 Brownlows in the bag.

You're almost saying we get ahead of ourselves around here?

 

[TigersYellowAndBlack]

Gee, it's such an early call to pillory the Judd deal just 9 games in......... and an equally premature call on Cotchin, as good as we think he is so far.

Probably early, but undeniably fun.

 

[seven]

Maybe somone could enlighten me on when the last time a team who traded young players and/or draft picks for a mid-career gun mid fielder (like the Judd situation) resulted in a grand final or at least a prelim spot within the next 2-3 years. I know it has happened with KPP's (Ottens, Hall etc.) but I don't remember it happening with mids.

Ian Stewart from St Kilda to Richmond. But guess that doesn't count as it happened so long ago before the draft system.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Maybe somone could enlighten me on when the last time a team who traded young players and/or draft picks for a mid-career gun mid fielder (like the Judd situation) resulted in a grand final or at least a prelim spot within the next 2-3 years. I know it has happened with KPP's (Ottens, Hall etc.) but I don't remember it happening with mids.

Shane Woewodin :cutelaugh

 

[Mac]

Shane Woewodin :cutelaugh

:duh

I was actually going to say Greg Williams

 

[Tiger74]

Shane Woewodin :cutelaugh

Barry Mitchell :cutelaugh

 

[Juffaricho]

Whilst leysy generally agrees with the theory Juffa, its not that cut & dried.

Off the top of leysy's head Tyson Stenglein & Paul Williams were both highly rated (moreso Williams ILO) midfielders whose teams wouldn't have won a flag without the respective trades being done.

Again, nice effort, but not quite in the same category. Williams was traded for #8 and #39 which Collingwood turned into James Clement and Brodie Holland and in turn played 5 seasons averaging 18 disposals and was handy. Kerr would demand a lot more and he is rated way higher than Williams ever was.

I had a look back to see what trades were done with a quality proven midfielder and a decent number of draft picks or players and I realised that besides Judd it hasn't happened obviously cos' clubs just aren't willing to pay the price for them but as I said earlier they are willing to do it for KPP's and even some of them turned out to be flops like Adelaide's trade for Carey. So it would be a very brave move to try anything.

 

[Leysy Days]

Again, nice effort, but not quite in the same category. Williams was traded for #8 and #39 which Collingwood turned into James Clement and Brodie Holland and in turn played 5 seasons averaging 18 disposals and was handy. Kerr would demand a lot more and he is rated way higher than Williams ever was.

I had a look back to see what trades were done with a quality proven midfielder and a decent number of draft picks or players and I realised that besides Judd it hasn't happened obviously cos' clubs just aren't willing to pay the price for them but as I said earlier they are willing to do it for KPP's and even some of them turned out to be flops like Adelaide's trade for Carey. So it would be a very brave move to try anything.

Or perhaps clubs aren't willing to trade them...

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

Moore's was a dud, Richo should have retired, Cotchin already has 3 Brownlows in the bag.

you forget that Matty White is the next Daniel Kerr