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PUNT ROAD END | Richmond Tigers Forum
Martin Pike talking about Carlton and Pagan on SEN
Said Carlton's current predicament nothing to do with Pagan. Also nothing to do with the forfeited draft picks of 2003.
Said it all came down to decisions 8 years ago. In the 1999 draft they traded virtually all picks for recycled players. Geelong's current midfield is almost entirely from that same 1999 draft. Feine said Carlton was very slow to adopt the draft as the major tool and has suffered as a result.
His general point is that you have to draft consisently and let the players develop together and its only after 8 years when the players have 150+ games under their belts that you have chance at a flag.
He also said that the kids need top notch senior player role models otherwise their game will never develop fully and it will be all about themselves. Said it was much easier for young kids to play with good teams and used Selwood as an example. (Also said he was a much better player with a good team such as North than he was with Fitzroy.) Talked alot about winning culture.
Said Carlton will be terrible for another 5 years at least. He said he wouldnt get rid of Fev because he is a star and the next coach maybe able to coach him and his value as a veteran star is far more than the speculative draft picks they would get. Basically said alot more and talked alot of sense.
I reckon he may as well of been talking about Richmond.
Wallace has said many of these things but its obviously easy to talk about and hard to do. You need both kids and good senior players and if you dont have the former it makes it hard to develop the latter. Therein lies the challenge.
Said Carlton's current predicament nothing to do with Pagan. Also nothing to do with the forfeited draft picks of 2003.
Said it all came down to decisions 8 years ago. In the 1999 draft they traded virtually all picks for recycled players. Geelong's current midfield is almost entirely from that same 1999 draft. Feine said Carlton was very slow to adopt the draft as the major tool and has suffered as a result.
His general point is that you have to draft consisently and let the players develop together and its only after 8 years when the players have 150+ games under their belts that you have chance at a flag.
He also said that the kids need top notch senior player role models otherwise their game will never develop fully and it will be all about themselves. Said it was much easier for young kids to play with good teams and used Selwood as an example. (Also said he was a much better player with a good team such as North than he was with Fitzroy.) Talked alot about winning culture.
Said Carlton will be terrible for another 5 years at least. He said he wouldnt get rid of Fev because he is a star and the next coach maybe able to coach him and his value as a veteran star is far more than the speculative draft picks they would get. Basically said alot more and talked alot of sense.
I reckon he may as well of been talking about Richmond.
Wallace has said many of these things but its obviously easy to talk about and hard to do. You need both kids and good senior players and if you dont have the former it makes it hard to develop the latter. Therein lies the challenge.