Is Adam Pattison the new Emmett Dunne?

[vosstiger]

Patto is an honest player no star but he has huge value within the team structure and particularly off field.

He is one of the funniest characters who is great for bonding the group.

Players have been kept on lists for less in the past.

For what it's worth he played well at CHF for Coburg before coming into the seniors. Marked well but let himself down with his kicking.

I think he will end up playing a role as a pinch hit KPP or Ruck, probably not first choice for either but will always be thereabouts as a tall utility

 

[craig]

The tigers can and need to do better than the Pattisons and McGuanes to go forward and really become September contenders.

 

[Bunnerz]

may as well not have been on the field today why do ferals keep defending this hack.

have to dissagree with claws negativity once again.....is pretty importnst to the structure IMO.

 

[the claw]

have to dissagree with claws negativity once again.....is pretty importnst to the structure IMO.

what does he add to the structure other than his height. surely one of graham or cartledge can fulfil this minimal purpose sheesh you never know we might find a ruckman who is actually competetive,

 

[GoodOne]

He is one of the funniest characters who is great for bonding the group.

Look forward to seeing him at the Comedy Club once his career is over.

 

[GoodOne]

You're wrong, he told three pack marks, put his body in, laid tackles.

Took 3 pack marks? He took 1 mark for the whole game and it wasn't a pack mark.

 

[the claw]

Took 3 pack marks? He took 1 mark for the whole game and it wasn't a pack mark.

yeah but it was overhead.

 

[Dyer'ere]

what does he add to the structure other than his height. surely one of graham or cartledge can fulfil this minimal purpose sheesh you never know we might find a ruckman who is actually competetive,

Patto still has the edge on them, mate. It's not like that other pair doesn't know that if they have a dip they'll get a game. Fair enough, Graham is getting over the ankle but Cartledge is not even as imposing as Patto.

We can hang on to Patto for a year even if he doesn't improve much. He makes sure that we've got physically competitive rucks before they get a game. If we draft two more this year and two more next year we'll have a list to choose from and a proper development programme. Then we can start pruning.

There will be plenty of rucks around with late picks this year. Let's take two.

 

[Bunnerz]

wait until he puts on 5k.g wil be better, going well i say

 

[pahoffm]

At home, I've got a newspaper photo in a scrapbook from 1973 of the captains of the 4 Tiger premiership sides.
Emmett Dunne was one of those captains, may have been Richmond U19s or 4ths, ie Essex Heights U17s.

Emmett initially came to the Tiges as a junior forward. In fact, his first couple of seasons in the seniors, saw his play as a fp / part-time ruck. As always, Tigers were always short for decent tall defenders. Reckon Tony Jewell put him in the tall bp in 1979. Took Emmett a while but he got the hang of it. Richmond & Essendon changed footy in the 80s with Roach & Salmon. Teams had 6'4"+ FFs and, with the introduction of interchange, responded by dropping the resting ruckman to the bench. So there was alot more pressure for teams to find 6'4" defenders with explosive pace to match these FFs, ergo Silvagni, Fletcher & the like.

Today, it's kind of reverted back a bit, with coaches preferring use their entire bench to rotate midfielders.
The tendency now is to place that 2nd ruckman/ tall forward back into a fp / goal square. Today, FFs have reverted to shorter, faster leading types of the 60s. Hence the return of shorter but faster FBs.

When someone posted the idea of Pattison evolving into a tall defender a couple of years ago, I was reticent towards it. Now, with the reversion of the game, plus Pattison's useful 2 years as a shorter mobile ruckman, I'm less reserved.

May work, but only against those forwards who he matches up on. (Unlike the *smile* v Medhurst match up that we saw in early 2007.) Some players who he'd match up on might be Hawkins of Geelong, Roughead or Boyle of Hawthorn, no one from Sydney, no one from Footscray, maybe Hartlett or Kreuzer of Carlton, Hale of North, that type, anyway.

 

[MalenyTiger]

I haven't been a huge fan of Patto for reasons that many have already said on this site but on Saturday there was a passage of play in the last quarter - with the game in the balance - the ball was at half forward and Patto was like a warthog smashing into the pack about 3 - 4 times burrowing in and making sure the ball stayed in our forward line. He certainly lifted his fan-rating in my eyes after that. His kicking is suspect and he should take more marks for a big man, but I think we would be a lesser team without him.

 

[tigers#7]

I cant see where all this talk of Pattos kicking being suspect comes from? Yes he looks ungainly, but 99% of the time he chooses the right option whether it be by hand or foot and executes. I honestly cant remember Patto turning over the footy.

 

[craig]

wait until he puts on 5k.g wil be better, going well i say

Bunnerz the bloke struggles to get off the ground now, i dont think an extra 5 kg will make it any easier for him. :hihi

Simple thing is that the Tigers can do better and must do better than the likes of Pattison, and Schulz, Jackson, Hyde, Jon and McGuane.

Geez deficiencies and mediocrity are accepted at Tigerland by both club and administration that seemingly are incabale of admitting defeat on a player and are happy to waste 6 years on them whilst fans think cos a guy took one good mark and made one good tackle he should be re signed and is a keeper. Fair dinkum spare me.

Just cos a guy has a go and tries hard ..............ffs this game is about winning premierships Its not the midgest or under 8s ffs.

Near enuffs dont win premierships nor do they get clubs the opportunities to try.

 

[PurpleSneakers]

no one from Footscray

Will Minson.

 

[scottyturnerscurse]

Most teams struggle with a decent second ruck. Patto gives his all. Occasionally does some good things, occasionally does some not-so good things. No team is flawless. You simply can't have 22 champs on the field, the salary cap prevents that. Would rather we spent our picks and our cash on bolstering forwards, defenders and midfielders, not on second rucks.

 

[mopsy fraser]

I cant see where all this talk of Pattos kicking being suspect comes from? Yes he looks ungainly, but 99% of the time he chooses the right option whether it be by hand or foot and executes. I honestly cant remember Patto turning over the footy.

previously i thought patto was a bad kick just because of his ungainly style but i`ve watched it closely this year and found that he is a very reliable kick.

it looks ungainly to begin with but he actually drops it beautifully onto his foot and usually hits a target.
i`ve become pretty confident when he gets the ball now.

mcguane is another i thought couldn`t kick but i`ve been watching him closely as well and he is a reliable kick.

you just need to watch the actual kick, not the kicking style and you will find that these 2 are pretty reliable.

 

[LeaGueS]

i think patto tries hard and could maybe be serviceable down forward but we need taller ruckman,
patto at 197 and simmo at 196 is not good enough, as good as simmo performs around the ground weve been consistanly beaten in the ruck, simmo would make an absolutle a grade 2nd ruckman/forward, we need a good 200+ ruckman, hopefully young putt comes good but thats years off, id try and snare warnock for sure

 

[tigergollywog]

I cant see where all this talk of Pattos kicking being suspect comes from? Yes he looks ungainly, but 99% of the time he chooses the right option whether it be by hand or foot and executes. I honestly cant remember Patto turning over the footy.

Agree #7. Uses the ball well and cannily by hand (mostly) and foot. I think he confounds people a bit, because sometimes he plays like a small, getting on the ground, under packs. I like Patto and am optimistic about his future role in a good tiger line up.