geoffryprettyboy said:
Wallace would have expected/hoped to have taken this team to the finals in his fourth year.
Ain't likely to happen but his 'improvement graph' would want to be looking like it was on Viagra.
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Is it spin or has he lost the plot?
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Wallace would have expected/hoped to have taken this team to the finals in his fourth year.
Ain't likely to happen but his 'improvement graph' would want to be looking like it was on Viagra.
Tubytiger said:
Yep agreed. Some people around here really do grasp at straws, yet on the other hand are quite happy to turn around and call journalist hypocrits.
The reality is, even if we have won most of the games we probably could have won, such as the Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, and a couple more, would we have been any better of than we are now. The answer is simply NO. In fact we may have been worse off in some respects as some of the cattle just may have avoided the ramp to the back of the truck heading to the abbatoir.
Now there can be no illusions about the list and where it is headed. I believe Wallace knew this hence his statements about 2009 (not 2011) as some insist. We still have a lot of changes to be made and as ToO said somewhere earlier, we are starting to see that 2006 was hopefully the beginning of a better drafting regime than we have had in the past, so lets hope this is just the beginning. Jackson seems to be a reasonable judge of talent going by what we have seen from Edwards, Jack, King and are now starting to see from Connors, Petterson, and the wraps on Collins.
Still a long long way to go no doubt, but I believe the tide is turning.
I really don't care if it takes a bit longer for success to come if that success can be sustainable as opposed to the quick fixes that have been attempted in the past with the recruitment of players such as Nicholls, Flemming, Hudson, Marsh, Weller, Morrison and co. It is going to take a little longer to draft and develop our own, but so be it. To me this is preferable to what has been attempted in the past.
The club knows that recruiting in the past has not been what it should hence more money being pumped into recruiting and changes being made to the recruiting department. Will it work. Only time will tell.
I am sure Wallace knows he has made mistakes along the way, but who hasn't. Lets hope he has learn't by them.
In a lot of ways this year has been a year we needed to have. A number of people must be moved on. Hopefully unskilled players who have been in the system will not be at Tigerland next year.
Lets now get game time into Kids like Connors, Casserly, Petterson (even if at Coburg seniors), and hopefully guys like Collins can get over injury worries and get their careers back on track as this is where the future lies, not in blokes like, Johnno, Tivendale, Gaspar, Knoble, and co.
so what are you trying to say gus?
this year was the year we needed to have, well no *smile* mate
the thing that bothers me is that it takes losses for people to realise the limitations that certain players have when if the people in charge had any idea they would of realised this some time ago
terry planned for us to be around 9th, recruiting kingsley was an in vain attempt to sneak a finals position, people can use the excuse it was only a psd selection but thats not the point, the point is that it was a short sighted decision which goes against everything terry has been preaching
the process will take longer because it started later than it should've, im a patient man and will sit back and see how it all turns out but the clocks ticking like it or not
this year was the year we needed to have, well no *smile* mate
the thing that bothers me is that it takes losses for people to realise the limitations that certain players have when if the people in charge had any idea they would of realised this some time ago
terry planned for us to be around 9th, recruiting kingsley was an in vain attempt to sneak a finals position, people can use the excuse it was only a psd selection but thats not the point, the point is that it was a short sighted decision which goes against everything terry has been preaching
the process will take longer because it started later than it should've, im a patient man and will sit back and see how it all turns out but the clocks ticking like it or not
I remember terry saying when appointed " I dont beleive a club has to bottom out to start to go foward " We were wooden spooners.
This was the first statment he made that worried me, as i hate finishing in the bottom 8 year after year. But i beleived in him.
I assumed , terry knew all the players in the league fairly well.
Yes, i wanted us to finish low again maybe even in is first 2yrs
But a 9th spot, then another, then bottom out while in his third yr, Ouch!!
My belief is waining.
The lions were destroying everyone, and to beat a side like that, i thought would have to take years of draft picks and good coaching recuiting etc.
As to terry's recent comments, i hope he's bloody right.
PS, I'm not saying terrys appointment was wrong. I think were better off in the long run.
This was the first statment he made that worried me, as i hate finishing in the bottom 8 year after year. But i beleived in him.
I assumed , terry knew all the players in the league fairly well.
Yes, i wanted us to finish low again maybe even in is first 2yrs
But a 9th spot, then another, then bottom out while in his third yr, Ouch!!
My belief is waining.
The lions were destroying everyone, and to beat a side like that, i thought would have to take years of draft picks and good coaching recuiting etc.
As to terry's recent comments, i hope he's bloody right.
PS, I'm not saying terrys appointment was wrong. I think were better off in the long run.
As a coach Wallet has never had a hard edge in his coaching. At the moment he is right down the bottom of the barrel when it comes to *smile* coaches. He has no balls, the pressure has been put in him this week after another coach (Sheedy) was given his marching orders, and what does Wallace do? He makes as many as 5 changes, when was the last time he used his colionies to make decisions :headscratch
Wallet is a showbag, and will always be a showbag!
Wallet is a showbag, and will always be a showbag!
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Can't win Wallace, gets lamblasted here for being optimistic on the return of Brown and Simmonds and then get blasted for being honest about us being a long way off and going backwards. From where I sit we are a long way off and going backwards and I for one do not want him to come out and say we are going to win 50% of the games between now and the end of the year because it would mean he is a lunatic.