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Is Miller Time Up ?
- Thread starter Redford
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honestly rfc are a joke, why is it that miller is still on the board of the club when he in fact owns shares in north melbourne and only this week has said he will be getting rid of them (hello conflict of interest if ever i saw one) and wallace is only worried about his wallet and doesent give two hoots about the tigers he is the master of all spin !! the story on him in the paper that hes a tiger through and through and wont coach again !! what a load of #$#$ (who would actuially want him anyway maybe braybrook under 12s) his comments on the sleeping giant ready to roar again what a load of #$#$#, millers comments on richmond team of today being similiar to that of north melbournes younger team under pagan what a crock of #$#$#,
Hawthorn were at exactly the same place as the rfc 3 years ago if not with a worse list and now look at the difference, it bewildares me that we have gone backwards once again.
I love the tigers but its dissapointing that we just keep going backwards in all departments.
Hawthorn were at exactly the same place as the rfc 3 years ago if not with a worse list and now look at the difference, it bewildares me that we have gone backwards once again.
I love the tigers but its dissapointing that we just keep going backwards in all departments.
Well going by todays article he is giving up his board duties. Not much left for him too do now, just hope he doesnt try to meddle in recruiting in his spare time. Leave that upto someone who actually knows a bit about it. 
No surprise last night on Footy Classified, Caroline Wilson squeezed 60 seconds about the Tigers. It was well orchastrated - The rest of the panel knew it was coming.
She had a dig at Miller, stating the obvious about a board member at Richmond holding shares with another club; "I thought he came to Tigerland to be a Richmond man?" She further went on to say, Miller had been at the club for six years and today, the club is facing the prospect of another wooden spoon - Sounds like a failuire message to me.
There was also the little snippet of the David King interview after yesterdays match, making reference to a senior player(s) who weren't prepared to do the team things. Wilson was asked who she felt King was referring and without hesitation she stated "Joel Bowden".
Archer made another very interesting point, saying too many players at Richmond were "individualistic" and that stems from the type the historic culture at the club.
Culture was the big word Wallace used during his return to Punt Rd in October 2004 - "It needed to change", were his famous words.
IMO, the underlying culture at the club hasn't changed at all. Sure, it's a more professional place since the days of Frawely and co. but the underlying culture refers to politics. It's as if every new coach that comes to Tigerland is put under oath - They will obey the commands of Richmond Gods.
The only way Terry can save his position this year is by winning matches. He cant afford to *smile* another player - This would look silly,as most would ask, "why couldn't he do this pre season?"
The last time Joel Bowden was dropped to Coburg was in 2004. On that occassion, his form was ordinary, but Bowden himself categorically stated at an end of season function, "there was more to it". Was he referring to politically reasons?
If Bowden is dropped to Coburg this week (or any other "senior" player for that matter) and they take the approach of a Glen Archer, then this may well spell the end of there careers at Punt Rd. However, if the decision making process is based on the eratic political culture that seems to always reasonate from Punt Rd, individuals like Bowden or others will see senior action without too much fuss again.
She had a dig at Miller, stating the obvious about a board member at Richmond holding shares with another club; "I thought he came to Tigerland to be a Richmond man?" She further went on to say, Miller had been at the club for six years and today, the club is facing the prospect of another wooden spoon - Sounds like a failuire message to me.
There was also the little snippet of the David King interview after yesterdays match, making reference to a senior player(s) who weren't prepared to do the team things. Wilson was asked who she felt King was referring and without hesitation she stated "Joel Bowden".
Archer made another very interesting point, saying too many players at Richmond were "individualistic" and that stems from the type the historic culture at the club.
Culture was the big word Wallace used during his return to Punt Rd in October 2004 - "It needed to change", were his famous words.
IMO, the underlying culture at the club hasn't changed at all. Sure, it's a more professional place since the days of Frawely and co. but the underlying culture refers to politics. It's as if every new coach that comes to Tigerland is put under oath - They will obey the commands of Richmond Gods.
The only way Terry can save his position this year is by winning matches. He cant afford to *smile* another player - This would look silly,as most would ask, "why couldn't he do this pre season?"
The last time Joel Bowden was dropped to Coburg was in 2004. On that occassion, his form was ordinary, but Bowden himself categorically stated at an end of season function, "there was more to it". Was he referring to politically reasons?
If Bowden is dropped to Coburg this week (or any other "senior" player for that matter) and they take the approach of a Glen Archer, then this may well spell the end of there careers at Punt Rd. However, if the decision making process is based on the eratic political culture that seems to always reasonate from Punt Rd, individuals like Bowden or others will see senior action without too much fuss again.
Skills said:
I reckon Bowden would have a fair case asking the coaching panel if matching him up on Medhurst was doing the team thing. Every radio commentator, spectator, would be if they could be, could see that this was a match up made in hell. One bound to fail. He has taken Rocca to the cleaners most times we have played them recently so why not go with that match up again. Did Terry really think he was going to outsmart Uncle Mick......surely not..............
gustiger12 said:
Thanks gus. Strong comeback.
Teams that finish last should challenge themselves. Every radio commentator or spectator for that matter, probably wouldn't know how to coach. Do you honestly think the likes of King, Royal & Wallace would go with that match-up (and specific instructions) if Bowden wasn't capable of doing the job?
What about when Duncan Kellaway was asked to play on Wayne Carey in his prime - Would that not be a huge challenge? Beat the King and Richmond wins. And again, in all fairness to guys like Pattison who got his arse busted in the ruck last year, he seemed to challenge himself despite losing nearly every battle. How would you assess his development in 12 months?
When you're seniors players are "too individualistic" they appear very comfortable. They know there spot in the team is completely safe - Whats a challenge worth when you're starting a family & business simultaneously outside of football?
gustiger12 said:
i just actually think terry wallet/miller are not right for rfc and again we have made mistakes at board level hiring etc , As caro said 6 years in and we may possibly win another wooden spoon i know its early in the season but last two games have been a rabble and now we have freo in perth, doggies, dawks to come and all of a sudden we could be 1-5 season gone again, another thing that makes me angry is you hear them say wallet and co that is "we dont listen to what people on the outside of the club are saying etc we concetrate as a playing group etc a " well they should start listening i think.
Its very sad to see our club in this state.
The best news I herd for a long time came from the mouth of Carro. She loves the Tiges and has put her support behind Clinton Casey.
Greg Miller will be gone, lets go all out for Neil Balme, he is the best in the business, he is a Tigers man and it will be a great start.
Greg Miller will be gone, lets go all out for Neil Balme, he is the best in the business, he is a Tigers man and it will be a great start.
Skills said:
So it's taken Wallace and his assistants almost 4 years to figure out that his senior players are individualistic and not up to the challenge. The same senior players that are not up to the challenge, however, are listed on the team sheet each and every week, while the recruitment and development of quality youth is neglected. Whichever way you look at it, the coach and the assistants are at fault.
How difficult is it to drop players that let you down each and every week? What do you owe them? Nothing. Their inept performances are costing you your coaching carreer if anything.
Harry said:
In the case of Bowden the previous 3 years have seen him take on different challenges to the one on Saturday and succeed on the whole. Bowden was also far from our worst in the first 2 rounds. He was given a different challenge on Sunday and failed.
Didnt a Medhurst bath preceed the Gaspering incident. Again a high profile Richmond player taken to the cleaners by Medhurst :spin