Is there a divide between Terry Wallace and the Richmond Players?

[RemoteTiger]

Interesting event happened in Remote Tiger's household this afternoon - my darling wife walked passed and saw the score and said "Wow! I thought the Tigers must have been winning you are so quite!"

Normally I rant, rave and swear at the TV - My wife takes our 5yo Stuart out when The Tigers are playing on the TV - so he doesn't pick up my supporter bad habits.

I was so disappointed and angry inside that I just shrugged my shoulders and replied "Me doing my nanna won't make the Tigers play any better!"

I calmed down inside and watched the remainder of the debacle understanding my beloved Tigers are the worst team in the comp at the moment!

During this calming moment I came to the conclusion that the players are not playing for the coach - they don't execute his directions at all well. Yet these players had they been picked by other AFL Clubs most would be seen as OK - even good to terrific - one or two blossoming champions. They would of had their development planned and they all would have been accessed as to their AFL ability long before they ever ran onto a ground in an AFL jumper.

I THINK TERRY WALLACE HAS LOST THE PLAYERS - and they don't believe in him any more and therefore cannot play for him!

To support this there were passages of play today where our foot skills and hand balls were precise and we goaled from it - so most of the players do have the necessary skills to play at AFL level.

I hear people calling for some player's heads - I reckon the buck stops at the coach's chair - get rid of Terry and for the remainder of this 2009 season see what another tried and proven coach could achieve with the same players list.

IMO there would be improvement - arguably vast improvement.

Wallace is the problem - the players cannot or do not play for him! So try a proven AFL coach as the Tiger coach - in truth what have we got to lose?

 

[2finalsin25]

YES!

I would like to see how the team would go without a coach this week.

that would make a statement if we won.

Worth a try- maybe the players might be able to make a statement!

 

[TigerForce]

Yes. Players did the same thing early in 2004 and every Richmond supporter knew Spud was finished.

 

[poppa x]

He plays his favourites and only drops a favourite under extreme circumstances.
When players like Polo / Connors / Post / etc get overlooked in favour of duds like Edwards and King then you sow the seeds of discontent.
And he'll aggavate the problem next week by pickimg McMuffin and retaining Tambling and Edwards.

 

[1eyedtiger]

During this calming moment I came to the conclusion that the players are not playing for the coach - they don't execute his directions at all well. Yet these players had they been picked by other AFL Clubs most would be seen as OK - even good to terrific - one or two blossoming champions. They would of had their development planned and they all would have been accessed as to their AFL ability long before they ever ran onto a ground in an AFL jumper.

I THINK TERRY WALLACE HAS LOST THE PLAYERS - and they don't believe in him any more and therefore cannot play for him!

To support this there were passages of play today where our foot skills and hand balls were precise and we goaled from it - so most of the players do have the necessary skills to play at AFL level.

I hear people calling for some player's heads - I reckon the buck stops at the coach's chair - get rid of Terry and for the remainder of this 2009 season see what another tried and proven coach could achieve with the same players list.

IMO there would be improvement - arguably vast improvement.

Wallace is the problem - the players cannot or do not play for him! So try a proven AFL coach as the Tiger coach - in truth what have we got to lose?

I only half agree with you there. As far a the players are concerned, I think the game plan or lack thereof has more to do with their performance than anything.

Going by today's performance, our current game plan is the get the ball, turn around a full 360 degrees, then give it off the the nearest teammate who has several opposition players bearing down on him.

As far as the coach is concerned, the story I heard at the time of Northey's departure was that the club thought that Northey was not capable of taking the players any further at the time. So, they got Walls, a proven premiership coach in to do the job instead. Well, that worked well, didn't it? As far as Richmond is concerned, the problems go far beyond the coach. There is no such thing as a tried and proven coach at this club. They all come in, say the same crap about being tough and trying out the kids and then, without fail, fail.

If anyone can shed any further light on what the hell is the problem at the club, please let the rest of us know.

 

[mopsy fraser]

come on people,can`t you see it?

it`s very,very simple, WE CAN NOT BLOODY KICK!

christ,stevie wonder could bloody well see it.

there`s no conspiracy,the players aren`t palnning a revolt,their spirit isn`t broken,we haven`t had a curse put on us(although i was contemplating that at times today)it`s not part of the worldwide jewish conspiracy,or an al-qaeda plot.

it`s very simple........ WE HAVE TOO MANY PLAYERS WHO CAN NOT KICK !

 

[Ghost of 29]

The divide is what TW is asking the players to execute and what the players are physically able to deliver upon.

However I reckon the players must be losing faith in this stupid zoning nonsence knowing they can't execute it but the coaching staff persist in using it.

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

I THINK TERRY WALLACE HAS LOST THE PLAYERS

yeah I can feel that too.

 

[RemoteTiger]

come on people,can`t you see it?

it`s very,very simple, WE CAN NOT BLOODY KICK!

christ,stevie wonder could bloody well see it.

there`s no conspiracy,the players aren`t palnning a revolt,their spirit isn`t broken,we haven`t had a curse put on us(although i was contemplating that at times today)it`s not part of the worldwide jewish conspiracy,or an al-qaeda plot.

it`s very simple........ WE HAVE TOO MANY PLAYERS WHO CAN NOT KICK !

Because they are more concerned about how they execute a *smile* game plan than concentrate on their skills - we had passages of play today where the ball moved fluently by foot and by hand which resulted in Goals - we can kick - it is just the players minds are all *smile* up by the coach!

 

[Dyer Disciple]

To support this there were passages of play today where our foot skills and hand balls were precise and we goaled from it - so most of the players do have the necessary skills to play at AFL level.

April fools day is past, nice try.

 

[gustiger12]

come on people,can`t you see it?

it`s very,very simple, WE CAN NOT BLOODY KICK!

christ,stevie wonder could bloody well see it.

there`s no conspiracy,the players aren`t palnning a revolt,their spirit isn`t broken,we haven`t had a curse put on us(although i was contemplating that at times today)it`s not part of the worldwide jewish conspiracy,or an al-qaeda plot.

it`s very simple........ WE HAVE TOO MANY PLAYERS WHO CAN NOT KICK !

The skills are only the half of it Mopsy. So many times we chose the low percentage options today when we had much better options on offer. Truth is they fail to back themselves and are hesitant to take a chance and so in decisive they are destined to fail when they fail to believe in what they are doing

 

[Mrs Richo]

i swear the players must want him sacked so they deliberately play *smile*....

I rekon he walks into the rooms after the game and says "Do you guys hate me and want me sacked?" or "Do u actually like the supporters bagging us"

 

[RemoteTiger]

April fools day is past, nice try.

No I saw it on 5 occassions - maybe you were so miserable with your head in your hands that you missed them - but they did occur!

Mind you to play in a finals campaign a team has to do it around 20 to 25 times a game and in every game......

 

[Yeah Nah]

Your point is correct, Terry has lost the players.

When a young player gets one game and then gets dropped of course the players lose respect for him.

It doesn't do much for the young players confidence when guys like Browne, Nahas get dropped after 1 game.
Why can't they leave these types of players in for a couple of weeks and give them a taste.
There were plenty of players that played worst than Browne against Carlton in Rd 1.

 

[Punxsutawney Phil]

It is 2004 all over again.

 

[1eyedtiger]

The divide is what TW is asking the players to execute and what the players are physically able to deliver upon.

However I reckon the players must be losing faith in this stupid zoning nonsence knowing they can't execute it but the coaching staff persist in using it.

I honestly don't get this zoning business. I understand that zoning requires a player to occupy space rather than a direct opponent but surely when your team is not in possession of the ball, you man up and force the opposition to kick to a contest. If I had a dollar for every time the Tiges have struggled to get the ball up the ground just to turn it over (whether by error or point score) just to see to opposition take it back down the ground in seconds without any contest at all, I'd be a millionaire. Not just this year. The last 15 years at least.

Today was a typical example. A lot of our kicks and hand passes were to contests or players already under pressure. The opposition on the other hand had no problem finding loose players all over the ground. It got to the point where I don't think that the doggies even cared if Richmond had possession. They knew it was a matter of time before we coughed it up.

 

[Pandaboy]

Because they are more concerned about how they execute a sh!t game plan than concentrate on their skills - we had passages of play today where the ball moved fluently by foot and by hand which resulted in Goals - we can kick - it is just the players minds are all *smile*ed up by the coach!

Rubbish. When you have guys who cannot hit a target 20 metres out, under little or NO pressure, this is nothing to do with complicated game plans. I agree Wallace's game plan of playing this possession type footy is pathetic, but he is not to blame if the players continue to commit basic skill errors.

Our kicking skills are just SHITHOUSE. Melbourne will be rubbing their hands after seeing such a rabble. We might even be playing the Dees into some form next week.

 

[Streak]

YES!

I would like to see how the team would go without a coach this week.

that would make a statement if we won.

Worth a try- maybe the players might be able to make a statement!

The only problem is that we are playing Melbourne this week, so the only thing you could read into it would be if we won, and we did so without a coach, that Wallace wasn't there to mess things up.

 

[mopsy fraser]

Because they are more concerned about how they execute a sh!t game plan than concentrate on their skills - we had passages of play today where the ball moved fluently by foot and by hand which resulted in Goals - we can kick - it is just the players minds are all *smile*ed up by the coach!

and those passages of play would be terry`s game plan wouldn`t they?

the players didn`t have trouble kicking well in the first quarter under terry`s game plan,but when the bulldogs put more pressure on us after that,our woeful kicking skills were put on show.

seriously it was embarrassing watching our players make disgraceful kicking mistakes today,our supporters were actually giving bronx cheers when we would hit a target.

and players don`t have to concentrate on kicking skills,you can either kick or you can`t,and blokes like edwards and king cannot kick up to AFL standard.
no amount of concentration will fix that.