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It's official, Hocking and the AFL are dumb-arsed, half-baked clowns who are trying to stuff the game

DavidSSS

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Can someone explain to me the point of reducing the number of interchanges if quarters are going to be shorter (likely 18 mins)? Doesn't that basically mean proportionally it's virtually the same?

Whoa there, just slow down a bit will you.

Ok, now think about this for a minute, you are attempting to discuss 2 things at once.

Now, if the numbnuts at the AFL could think of 2 things at once, they might actually be capable of thinking through the impact of their yearly attempts to completely f*** up Australian Rules Football.

Clearly this is not the case so if you want to argue against these changes you are going to have to deal with one thing at a time, look no further than your nose and make sure you use words of 2 syllables or less. Otherwise their eyes will glaze over.

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Butch67

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Im afraid they'll keep stretching for various ways to change the fabric of the game. I keep hearing they want the game to look like yesteryear but tweaks like 3 in the 50 at stoppages put pay to that straight away. With 18 teams in the comp clubs had to recruit or draft athletes as theres not enough footballers to go around, skill drops off.

Im surprised they havent come up with a rule where there can be only one tackler, that would mean the ball cant be locked in as much, might be easier to judge holding the ball too (this might help richmond though due to more chaos)
 

Honest John

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So the man on the mark can't move to follow the free kick taker if he deviates from the mark? What about buddy's "natural arc"? I can see the umps getting sucked in and paying 50's all over the place early on before the AFL instructs them to ease off a bit. Like the stupid protected zone rule
Agreed, technically if a player goes off the mark, including walking or "wandering" back to kick for goal, it should be play-on. These rule changes have all the hallmarks of an arms race - a tit-for-tat response that will see coaches invent new ways to limit the intentions of these rules.
 

Brodders17

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Agreed, technically if a player goes off the mark, including walking or "wandering" back to kick for goal, it should be play-on. These rule changes have all the hallmarks of an arms race - a tit-for-tat response that will see coaches invent new ways to limit the intentions of these rules.
Players on the wing often move about 10 mtrs in board before play on is called, they get away with it on part because the man on the mark goes with them. That will have to stop if the man on the mark cant move, so players will be stuck on the boundary line, so will be more likely to kick down the line, increasing congestion.

I also expect players will stop manning the mark straight away- staying close enough to stop playing on, but not too close they are stuck there, until their team is sorted.
 
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mrposhman

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Players on the wing often move about 10 mtrs in board before play on is called, they get away with it on part because the man on the mark goes with them. That will have to stop if the man on the mark cant move, so players will be stuck on the boundary line, so will be more likely to kick down the line, increasing congestion.

I also expect players will stop manning the mark straight away- staying close enough to stop playing on, but not too close they are stuck there, until their team is sorted.

I expect you are right, players will just step back a metre or so from the mark which means they can still move laterally. It will probably be the most pointless change in the rules that we've ever seen. Seems so easy to counter and render the rule change useless.

I'd love to see the stats on the kick ins, what results did the previous change actually do other than pad out stats of players that move outside the square and then kick long?
 
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waiting

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I expect you are right, players will just step back a metre or so from the mark which means they can still move laterally. It will probably be the most pointless change in the rules that we've ever seen. Seems so easy to counter and render the rule change useless.

I'd love to see the stats on the kick ins, what results did the previous change actually do other than pad out stats of players that move outside the square and then kick long?
Exactly.
Trying to force coaches to take the kick laterally, onboard instead of the kick down the line.
They want flow.
They don’t want congestion, boundary throw ins or ball ups.

Coaches will be coaches.
Players too.

Stupid.
 

tigertim

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So I just read that Hocking will be introducing a new “mid season draft” for next year.

Clubs with vacancies on their list will have the option of drafting in players after rounds 4, 8 and 12. A104C5E9-783D-4947-952E-7F6602FB9D31.jpeg
 
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caesar

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So I just read that Hocking will be introducing a new “mid season draft” for next year.

Clubs with vacancies on their list will have the option of drafting in players after rounds 4, 8 and 12. View attachment 11277

So instead of Richmond being last in 2 drafts, (National and Rookie), we will now potentially be last in 5? :mad:
 
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deedee

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Am I right that in the VFL, the fullback will have to wait for the correct number of players to be in the 50 meter zone at the other end of the ground before kicking in / playing on from a point? Can see the team that kicked the point being very slow getting back to the zone to give the rest of the team time to set up defensively, if it is the case.
 

tommystigers

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I am expecting a rectangular marking zone to be implemented to "fix" the issue of no-one standing the mark or to prevent a second player moving laterally behind the marking player. My prediction would be for 10 metres wide and five metres deep



I am making thiss predicshun coz I just fell and smacced me headd and it makes good sens
 
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zippadeee

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He is wondering how the *smile* have we won 3 flags while his beloved Geelong with that peanut at the helm has done Jackshiit.
It wouldve been interesting to see if he would've changed the rules if Geelong was going for 3 in a row.
I reckon its time Gale or Balme come and unleash on this knob
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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So I just read that Hocking will be introducing a new “mid season draft” for next year.

Clubs with vacancies on their list will have the option of drafting in players after rounds 4, 8 and 12.
They're also introducing minimum quotas for u21s and u23s on VFL lists so there will presumably be fewer opportunities for mature-agers to make it to the AFL via this type of draft.
 
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tigertim

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They're also introducing minimum quotas for u21s and u23s on VFL lists so there will presumably be fewer opportunities for mature-agers to make it to the AFL via this type of draft.
Yeah, the VFL has become a development league. So Marlion wouldn’t become the story he has if he were a Victorian player in 2021 onwards?
 
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Honest John

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Players on the wing often move about 10 mtrs in board before play on is called, they get away with it on part because the man on the mark goes with them. That will have to stop if the man on the mark cant move, so players will be stuck on the boundary line, so will be more likely to kick down the line, increasing congestion.

I also expect players will stop manning the mark straight away- staying close enough to stop playing on, but not too close they are stuck there, until their team is sorted.
Absolutely. Player on the mark points to the ground and asks the umpire - is this the mark? Yes. Then player on the mark takes one GIANT step backwards. No longer on the mark.
 
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Honest John

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I am expecting a rectangular marking zone to be implemented to "fix" the issue of no-one standing the mark or to prevent a second player moving laterally behind the marking player. My prediction would be for 10 metres wide and five metres deep



I am making thiss predicshun coz I just fell and smacced me headd and it makes good sens
Hence my comment arms race - another (proposed) rule to counter the "no one on the mark" tactic.
 
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TigerPort

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If the AFL was serious about 1) reducing congestion 2) reducing list size and 3) reducing costs then the simple fix would have been to reduce on field team numbers to 16.

Just to clarify I am against all rule changes just saying the AFL is dodging the most realistic change that would help ease all the major problems
 
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The Big Richo

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If the AFL was serious about 1) reducing congestion 2) reducing list size and 3) reducing costs then the simple fix would have been to reduce on field team numbers to 16.

Just to clarify I am against all rule changes just saying the AFL is dodging the most realistic change that would help ease all the major problems

I suspect that decision is pretty firmly rebutted by the players as well. The clubs and the AFL won't want to pay two superfluous players and the AFLPA won't like losing two spots each game.
 
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eZyT

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talk about half baked clown trying to stuff up the game,

anyone seen this uni-nostrilled GC DJ Fisher bloke who crashed our premiership party?

and put our cup upside down on his head?

I dont think we'll have to worry about him for too much longer,

I'm pretty sure his heart will give out at The Maroons Byron beach party either tonight or tommorow night.

either that, or one of the Maroons will mistake him for a schoolgirl and his stupid grin for consent.
 

zippadeee

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Absolutely. Player on the mark points to the ground and asks the umpire - is this the mark? Yes. Then player on the mark takes one GIANT step backwards. No longer on the mark.
Thats the point. The umpire marks the spot, but the opposition don't have to stand the mark.
Therefore player's will stand a metre behind the mark doing exactly what they were doing this year.
Just a really stupid rule.
Real coaches will use it as a part of their game plan
 
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