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Disco08 said:
Fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree. I'll have a good look this year to see if anyone at all in this type of situation is able to see the contact coming and brace for it. Like I said to claw, I don't recall many (if any) instances of this type of thing happening from a fair few years of footy watching.

If a Richmond player was in this situation and took their eye of the ball their reputation would be forever tarnished. Not only would they be labeled soft etc. at every opportunity on sites like this but the media also have no trouble pointing out acts like this where players show less than optimal courage when attacking the ball.
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As you say we'll agree to disagree duck.

Its when players fumble that they can put themselves in trouble. Take the ball cleanly & you have time to look around.
As leysy said when McGinnity turned & lost possession of the ball he could & should have anticipated contact ILO.

On a Richmond player doing that, again not with you. The half second before contact the ball was so well away from McGinnity that it is being termed a shepherd. Most players after turning would have had there eyes raised enough & had the vision to give themselves that millisecond needed to brace themselves without there reputation being tarnised. Happens time & again on the field ILO.
 
Looked pretty dangerous to me. Also don't think it adds one bit to the 'fabric' or 'appeal' of the game at all.
 
Leysy Days said:
Agreed, Davey should be protected in that situation.

Very lucky to get away with it.
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Double Agree. To me that is the most dangerous act on a football field.

I think if the Maxwell verdict stays, Young gets three weeks.
 
This game really is run by morons.

Maxwell actually executed a near-perfect bump almost within every nuance of the laws of the game, with the exception of contact being slightly high- a free kick no more. The AFL tried to throw the book at him and, quite rightly, had it thrown straght back.

Then Young and Motlop perform two quite unnecessasy and, quite likely, cowardly acts. Young's was no more than an attempt to make a player who had already outmarked him "earn it" and Moptop jumped into an opponent, turned his back on him to protect himself and struck a much taller opponent very high.

Nah, that's all good! No one was hurt. Dopes!

BTW, this tunnelling caper is worrying. Someone is going to have their legs taken out from underneath them, land flush and awkwardly on their back and do some serious damage. No matter how much they pontificate after that happens, it will too late for the image of the game.
 
TOT70 said:
This game really is run by morons.

Maxwell actually executed a near-perfect bump almost within every nuance of the laws of the game, with the exception of contact being slightly high- a free kick no more. The AFL tried to throw the book at him and, quite rightly, had it thrown straght back.

Then Young and Motlop perform two quite unnecessasy and, quite likely, cowardly acts. Young's was no more than an attempt to make a player who had already outmarked him "earn it" and Moptop jumped into an opponent, turned his back on him to protect himself and struck a much taller opponent very high.

Nah, that's all good! No one was hurt. Dopes!

BTW, this tunnelling caper is worrying. Someone is going to have their legs taken out from underneath them, land flush and awkwardly on their back and do some serious damage. No matter how much they pontificate after that happens, it will too late for the image of the game.
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That is the lay of the land is I see it.
 
TOT70 said:
This game really is run by morons.

Maxwell actually executed a near-perfect bump almost within every nuance of the laws of the game, with the exception of contact being slightly high- a free kick no more. The AFL tried to throw the book at him and, quite rightly, had it thrown straght back.

Then Young and Motlop perform two quite unnecessasy and, quite likely, cowardly acts. Young's was no more than an attempt to make a player who had already outmarked him "earn it" and Moptop jumped into an opponent, turned his back on him to protect himself and struck a much taller opponent very high.

Nah, that's all good! No one was hurt. Dopes!
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Well said, couldn't agree more.

I think a large problem the Tribunal, and even more so umpires have, is they have a mandate to not only enforce the rules as written but also are given "concentrations of the season" on interpretations, the AFL pressure them with further agendas and there is so much concentration on so many things the basic rules and spirit of the game gets lost to bureaucratic and/or legalistic over emphasis.

It's the only way I can conceivably fathom their blatant lack of common sense and consistency anyway... :don't know
 
TOT70 said:
This game really is run by morons.

Maxwell actually executed a near-perfect bump almost within every nuance of the laws of the game, with the exception of contact being slightly high- a free kick no more. The AFL tried to throw the book at him and, quite rightly, had it thrown straght back.

Then Young and Motlop perform two quite unnecessasy and, quite likely, cowardly acts. Young's was no more than an attempt to make a player who had already outmarked him "earn it" and Moptop jumped into an opponent, turned his back on him to protect himself and struck a much taller opponent very high.

Nah, that's all good! No one was hurt. Dopes!

BTW, this tunnelling caper is worrying. Someone is going to have their legs taken out from underneath them, land flush and awkwardly on their back and do some serious damage. No matter how much they pontificate after that happens, it will too late for the image of the game.
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Spot on, and they have had the opportunity to nip it in the bud and they don't take it. Young was undoubtedly not assessed as deliberate but probably should have been, I wonder what his points would have been then.
 
so they are making something that before was reasonable and non negligent negligent. has anybody had a look at the wording its a joke . we can now kiss the bump good bye.
memetriou and anderson nothappy with a bit of common sense have to see their nonsense applied to the ruination of the game.
i know what all the skinny outside soft pricks who never put their head over the ball have now come into the game even more it wont be long before tackling is banned as well and we have out door basketball or a version of game close to gaelic football.

well dimi and *smile* you can now officially add another long term football follower to the long list of supporters who just wont be bothered anymore. im not interested in a game where theres absolutely no contests and no pysicality and thatv my friends is where you have taken our once great game.

make no mistake the game is almost to the point where you have 22 jordan mcmahon types on each team running around.
 
the claw said:
so they are making something that before was reasonable and non negligent negligent. has anybody had a look at the wording its a joke . we can now kiss the bump good bye.
memetriou and anderson nothappy with a bit of common sense have to see their nonsense applied to the ruination of the game.
i know what all the skinny outside soft pricks who never put their head over the ball have now come into the game even more it wont be long before tackling is banned as well and we have out door basketball or a version of game close to gaelic football.

well dimi and *smile* you can now officially add another long term football follower to the long list of supporters who just wont be bothered anymore. im not interested in a game where theres absolutely no contests and no pysicality and thatv my friends is where you have taken our once great game.

make no mistake the game is almost to the point where you have 22 jordan mcmahon types on each team running around.
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Agree. Unbelievable that the bump/shepherd, which in many cases is the best "team" option, is now at risk of becoming obselete. Andersons' ego must be very fragile.

If the NAB cup games are indicative of the style of game in the season to come I'll be another looking for a more traditional spectacle at a local oval.
 
the claw said:
no mate i have had 5 people look at that clip and all of them think there was a head clash i suggest its you who are only seeing what you want.

as for haveing two bob each way how do you figure that. its been my stance right from the start that regardless of what part of maxwell hit mcginnity the bump was okay. as it is i think it even more absurd when i consider it was head contact that caused the damage.

mate if there was no head contact but maxwell broke 4 of mcginnitys ribs do you think he should be rubbed out. after all he would have injured a player.

imo all who want this bump penalised are supporting a core change to our game even if those who think this way cant see it them selves.this whole incident has raged because many think the same thing but i suppose all those people are wrong i suppose the game has not got softer no i think there are many who only see what they want to see and its not those who think that bump was nothing more than a free kick at worst.

as for this thread this is my last comment on it, but i will keep bringing this thread up thru the yr everytime a player lays a similar bump. weather it be a richmond player or anyone else.that is if my interest/passion for the game has not disappered altogether. atm the only thing that keeps me going is the rfc and i can tell you now even that is fast disappearing if the tiges were no longer i would not be watching footy and it never used to be that way.

after this terrible decision i dont think i will have to many bumps to bring up anyway.
and finally when it goes to appeal, like bct i think common sense will prevail and maxwell will be found not guilty.
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as promised ive bought this thread back up with the season almost upon us.
i for one will be watching bumps not that i expect to see any well none of any force. thats the other thing i think i will do count how many bumps actually occur.
bring on the netball.
 
the claw said:
as promised ive bought this thread back up with the season almost upon us.
i for one will be watching bumps not that i expect to see any well none of any force. thats the other thing i think i will do count how many bumps actually occur.
bring on the netball.
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Well Blowie mentioned on Footy Calcified that he believes the bump is dead and all coaches should be instructing their guys to just shepherd and block.
 
tigger4eva said:
Well Blowie mentioned on Footy Calcified that he believes the bump is dead and all coaches should be instructing their guys to just shepherd and block.
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Remember they have actually changed the rule so that what Maxwell did is now reportable ie. a player can now be reported for a complete accident.
 
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