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It's time to draw a line in the sand!

We are a team of basketballers. Forget about "hard ball gets" we just aren't tough enough.
Sheedy's plumbers, red heads, aboriginals and catholics will always bounce back harder than us.
The "Ruthless" dropped out of Richmond's culture years ago. Sadly.
 
Rumor has it that Conners went out drinking and got into a fight! He was suspended for 2 weeks. I think he might be playing for Coburg reserves today. Not 100% sure on that one though.
 
iitb said:
crackertiger said:
We are now the laughing stock of the AFL by a long way

Not so sure about that. The dockers are helping us out in that dept.
We are way ahead of them 25 years of crap to about 12.
Might be a fun game this year.
The toothless tigers v the frocker shockers, loser gets to contend with the disfunctional dees for the spoon.
 
The only guys with some mongrel that we have include White, Hartigan and Connors and all three arent in the seniors....Polak has a little bit and so does Newman.
 
Tigers of Old said:
crackertiger said:
got into a fight!

Give the boy a game now. >:D

Zantuck is probably the most aggressive player we've had recently and his career was over at the age of 23. Tim Fleming played half as many games as Zantuck. Krakouer is in hot water over an off-field incident. Mooney is a laughing stock, getting a holiday every other week he plays. That sort of aggression gets you nowhere these days.

Look at the 2002 Brisbane side. Keating and McDonald in the ruck, Ashcroft, Hart, Pike, Notting, McRae, the Scotts - not champion players in the conventional sense, but they all have at least two premiership medallions. There was no bona fide mongrel in the side (though Headland is becoming unhinged these days), but also no player whose courage was suspect or would allow themselves to be physically intimidated. That unit took years to build which may be the sort of thing that TW was alluding to with his 2011 comment.

You can't just flick a switch and decide to be tough (witness Matthew Lloyd's comical efforts of a few years ago). Toughness is forged by playing and winning crunch games and then finals; right now we need to remember how to win ordinary games, and rediscover the belief amongst the players that they are going somewhere. We've had it at times over the past two years.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Tigers of Old said:
crackertiger said:
got into a fight!

Give the boy a game now. >:D

Zantuck is probably the most aggressive player we've had recently and his career was over at the age of 23. Tim Fleming played half as many games as Zantuck. Krakouer is in hot water over an off-field incident. Mooney is a laughing stock, getting a holiday every other week he plays. That sort of aggression gets you nowhere these days.

Look at the 2002 Brisbane side. Keating and McDonald in the ruck, Ashcroft, Hart, Pike, Notting, McRae, the Scotts - not champion players in the conventional sense, but they all have at least two premiership medallions. There was no bona fide mongrel in the side (though Headland is becoming unhinged these days), but also no player whose courage was suspect or would allow themselves to be physically intimidated. That unit took years to build which may be the sort of thing that TW was alluding to with his 2011 comment.

You can't just flick a switch and decide to be tough (witness Matthew Lloyd's comical efforts of a few years ago). Toughness is forged by playing and winning crunch games and then finals; right now we need to remember how to win ordinary games, and rediscover the belief amongst the players that they are going somewhere. We've had it at times over the past two years.

Good Post.

Bring in Pike as a assistant coach and get the wimps fired up ready to play football.
 
tha8ball said:
The only guys with some mongrel that we have include White, Hartigan and Connors and all three arent in the seniors....Polak has a little bit and so does Newman.

i watched harts at coburg today and he looks to have lost his way a bit!! still has the courage but his execution was terrible
 
jonnomc said:
Bring in Pike as a assistant coach and get the wimps fired up ready to play football.

Don't know that he'd be interested seeing he tipped us for the spoon this season. He tactfully implied that our younger players were not much good.
 
I agree that Richmond as a group has to be harder, both mentally and physically, but that doesn't mean you turn into a team of thugs. The way the game is these days simply doesn't allow it. One of the most highly respected players to ever wear the yellow and black was Francis Bourke. Captain Courageous wasn't a thug, he was hard, rock hard, but he did it with courage and he's the sort of player that the current side could do with more of.