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Jack Riewoldt [Merged]

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Unlucky to not have converted a few more shots today. He did well to mark his way into the second half, but I wish he would stop carrying on like a pork chop when things aren't going his way. He still needs to grow up a bit more and act a little more team oriented and he will a far more valuable player.
 
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I will say now that Riewoldt out marked frawley numerous times with strong overhead contested marks can only remember frawley out marking jack once...7 scoring shots is big but 1 goal isnt so it wasn't frawley who stopped jack kicking goals it was jack himself... wasn't sure what to expect on this thread from posters but happy to see that nearly all agree that jack had the better of frawley well if a fwd has 7 scoring shots and a few goal assists and out marks his opponent many times he gets the points in my books but 1 goal 5 behinds and one out on the full not good by jacks standards, should've had 4 or 5 no doubt...

Btw that goal to the city end was a goal i was directly behind it and it went through >:(

The thing that stood out for me was jack out marked him in the air where in previous years frawley would always get the punch in as he has fast closing speed...
 
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Lack of a strong competitive CHF causing plenty of grief at the moment.
Using the flanks and pockets to keep the rebound corridor safe at the moment, just trying to earn goals by locking the ball in deep and scrounging with crumbers.
Lucky for us Jack is just as good at scrounging to create as he is at contesting one out when we have a proper forward structure.
 
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jamo said:
Jack needs to stop sooking it up and start playing hard attacking footy.
I'm not at all convinced he's sooking. But there are times where I reckon he can look like he's sooking. So I just wish he'd stop giving that impression.
 
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His poor conversion this season has turned what could have been a very good season into an average one.

Take out his 2 game purple patch of 14 goals and he has kicked 25 in 12 games which isn't a great return given what he is capable of.
 
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Punxsutawney Phil said:
His poor conversion this season has turned what could have been a very good season into an average one.

Take out his 2 game purple patch of 14 goals and he has kicked 25 in 12 games which isn't a great return given what he is capable of.

His kicking was right off yesterday. Just horrible. :-\
You could see when he kicked that banana that he was really struggling for confidence.
Needs to rediscover it next weekend heading into some tougher games.
 
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I'm wondering whether the ankle he hurt against fremantle is affecting him, he looks like he's struggling to kick accurately outside forty. He took a mark fifty five metres out on the weekend that he short passed in to Deledio, and I would have thought, at full strength, he could make that distance.

Was it his right ankle that he hurt?

I know, having done some ligament damage in my right ankle, it takes a while to be able to point your toes without pain, and that's super important in being able to kick through the ball.
It's possible he just had an off day, but it seemed that his kicking action was off, more so than confidence, and he also took two shots on his left foot.
 
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Whilst we're developing some alternative avenues to goal, we're still way too Riewoldt centric atm.
If heaven forbid he gets injured who's going to play up front?
Need another genuine option.
 
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Tigers of Old said:
Whilst we're developing some alternative avenues to goal, we're still way too Riewoldt centric atm.
If heaven forbid he gets injured who's going to play up front?
Need another genuine option.

funny you bring that up because they over the last month I've developed a theory on this.

i agree that we are jack centric and i don't mind us being riewoldt centric but I get the feeling dimma may be getting it wrong. in developing a multi pronged attack he has made jacks work 3 times harder than it should be.

we are relying on jack to create a contest and either take a big pack grab or bring the ball to ground where we back our mids and smalls to hustle a goal. the problem is that there is no bloody space in our fwd line for anyone to work. when there is no space it makes leading impossible, hitting up targets even harder than impossible and increases the likelihood of a intercept mark by opposition backs

and here's the problem. we create a lot of opposition turnovers and f50 entries because our mids and backs push so deep forward. which is great but its the very thing that hurts our f50 entry efficiency and goal kicking accuracy because while our players are pushing they bring their opponent with them creating a congested f50 arc.

I can see what we are trying to do in that we press so high we create the pressure on our attacking 50m arc as opposed to our defensive 50m arc. but in doing this we have dysfunctional fwd line structure and a player in jack who never gets a ball one out with an opponent which also happens to be his biggest strength. we are intentionally playing to a plan that reduces the effectiveness of arguably our best players biggest strength.

is hardwick's game plan based around his high press and weight of f50 entries creating scoring shots OR because he doesn't want a one dimensional fwd line and a heavy reliance on jack? we all know and saw how that can be a poisoned chalice after witnessing the frawley era of "kick it to richo"

if jack worked as hard as he does right now in an open fwd line we'd have jacks opponent exactly in the situation all backs hate being in, one out deep. i would back riewoldt to beat just about anyone one on one with even an average kick to advantage. jack would kick a hundred goals a year and we would be kicking 25 goals 12 behinds a week instead of 12 goals 25 behinds

looks like a robbing peter to pay paul scenario right now but its evident he still doesnt have the personnel at his disposal to execute the game plan under the right structures. until we get vickery back next season and see how the astbury/griff situation unfolds i'll cut dimma some slack
 
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This does happen on occasion - however have another look at the Adelaide game. We bombed the ball long to Jack being double & triple teamed too often. Seriously lacked another tall option on that day. The other thing is - against Melbourne - his kicking for goal was poor. He actually had the space to lead into more than once - led - took the mark - went back - took his time AND.................kicked the point...................

Bad kicking is bad footy...........& we should know.......................
 
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jimbob said:
This does happen on occasion - however have another look at the Adelaide game. We bombed the ball long to Jack being double & triple teamed too often. Seriously lacked another tall option on that day. The other thing is - against Melbourne - his kicking for goal was poor. He actually had the space to lead into more than once - led - took the mark - went back - took his time AND.................kicked the point...................

Bad kicking is bad footy...........& we should know.......................

i did allude to the fact we were missing vickery and perhaps another to structure right for the game plan. with another tall they can drag a 3rd man up away from contest . no doubt that will straighten us up.

at the game on saturday i thought jacks game (kicking aside) was close to his best all year, after watching the reply i have no doubt it was considering the congestion and lack of space to work in. it was the most congested i have seen our f50 all year, including the freo and adelaide games.

i understand he had some space out wide and took some on the lead but do we really wanting him kicking from 45m out on the boundary? the issue i have is that we press so high he has no space behind him either

his job is pretty easy when he has space to work with behind him and can run with the flight of the ball and the stkilda game illustrates that. it also illustrates what the other team can do when our press isnt high enough or breaks down.

until the fwd line is set and we can structure effectively there would be nothing wrong with starting the press at the 50-60m distance from our goal instead of the 20-30 m distance we press to now.
 
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I certainly agree that leading wide to the pockets certainly does not make for an easy shot on goal. But he had 2-3 shots from quite reasonable angles for a nil return. He wasn't Robinson Crusoe - Edwards missed from 15 meters & I reckon Grigg was as close. Jacks kicking has lacked a bit of fluency for mine this year. He also seems to have lost his leap a bit - I thought it started coming back against Hawthorn - but there is something just not quite right for mine. Absolutely agree with missing Vickery. Last year he was an excellent alternative to kick to - big guys just do not get any shorter as the game wears on. Good opportunity for Derycx to show what he can do. We must have alternatives when going into attack & once we get the opportunity - we just have to lift the conversion rate.

We have lost 7 games & either had more scoring shots or as many shots as the team that won the game in 5 of them I believe. That is an intensely frustrating statistic.
 
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massive worry. i'd be happy concede a couple of more goals a game if it meant we kicked a handful extra with an open fwd line