Re: Jake King (Merged)
Sorry mate, please quote me an example of my dislike for Whitey. Just one.
rimau35 said:
Sorry mate, please quote me an example of my dislike for Whitey. Just one.
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Re: Jake King (Merged)
Why did you bring up Matt when I posted about Jake?
Matt doesn't play as a small forward any more. He is not in contention to replace Jake.
If you watched Coburg games you would understand where he is being groomed for.....I'll give you a hint, it is not in the forward line.
I haven't got the time. Please don't call me mate, because I aint.LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Why did you bring up Matt when I posted about Jake?
Matt doesn't play as a small forward any more. He is not in contention to replace Jake.
If you watched Coburg games you would understand where he is being groomed for.....I'll give you a hint, it is not in the forward line.
Re: Jake King (Merged)
You gotta take the good with the bad. A bloke like Kingy plays on the edge and gives absolutely everything he has got. He does the wrong thing on some occasions but more often than not he is doing the grunt work we dont want our more skillfull players doing. If someone else doesnt bring the intesnsity that Kingy does this week, then we are a good chance to lose. Blokes like Jake are vital to teams and as much as his detractors refuse to admit they will probably continue to do so because we all have faves.
You gotta take the good with the bad. A bloke like Kingy plays on the edge and gives absolutely everything he has got. He does the wrong thing on some occasions but more often than not he is doing the grunt work we dont want our more skillfull players doing. If someone else doesnt bring the intesnsity that Kingy does this week, then we are a good chance to lose. Blokes like Jake are vital to teams and as much as his detractors refuse to admit they will probably continue to do so because we all have faves.
Re: Jake King (Merged)
Their are lots of players at Richmond that play near the edge while giving absolutley everything they have FOR THE CLUB, not over it like Jake regularly does for HIMSELF.
These same players bring the same intensity to each game and are more vital to the future success of our club than someone who continually gets suspended for stupid and selfish actions and whose mere prescence at contests appears to affect the way that the umpires adjudicate the game, mostly to Richmond's deficit when he is near the ball.
For Jake to state on the RFC website that he his poor performance earlier in the season was a result of an injury that he hid from the coaches and staff, shows where his heart really lies.
Richo did it to be able to play and kick his 700th goal, and came straight of the ground with the obvious injury.
Cuz did it before his last game.
Surely the time has passed for such selfishness to be tolerated at a club striving for success.
In this modern era of footy surely honesty and integrity are required by all players and coaches, to enable the team to move forward into the successful era that we all expect.
Jason King said:
Their are lots of players at Richmond that play near the edge while giving absolutley everything they have FOR THE CLUB, not over it like Jake regularly does for HIMSELF.
These same players bring the same intensity to each game and are more vital to the future success of our club than someone who continually gets suspended for stupid and selfish actions and whose mere prescence at contests appears to affect the way that the umpires adjudicate the game, mostly to Richmond's deficit when he is near the ball.
For Jake to state on the RFC website that he his poor performance earlier in the season was a result of an injury that he hid from the coaches and staff, shows where his heart really lies.
Richo did it to be able to play and kick his 700th goal, and came straight of the ground with the obvious injury.
Cuz did it before his last game.
Surely the time has passed for such selfishness to be tolerated at a club striving for success.
In this modern era of footy surely honesty and integrity are required by all players and coaches, to enable the team to move forward into the successful era that we all expect.
Re: Jake King (Merged)
Ironically your name is Jason King, and your backing kingy to the hills
Agree with your post btw.
Jason King said:
Ironically your name is Jason King, and your backing kingy to the hills
Agree with your post btw.
Re: Jake King (Merged)
Garbage. King is a best 22 player, is rarely beaten one on one and generally make team orientated decisions on the field. That he deserves his spot has nothing to do with romance, it's because he is a solid footballer.
He is getting back to his best, and whilst it is poor timing to get suspended the incident was an instinct reaction that many players have committed over the years. (notably serial offender D fletcher)
rimau35 said:
Garbage. King is a best 22 player, is rarely beaten one on one and generally make team orientated decisions on the field. That he deserves his spot has nothing to do with romance, it's because he is a solid footballer.
He is getting back to his best, and whilst it is poor timing to get suspended the incident was an instinct reaction that many players have committed over the years. (notably serial offender D fletcher)
Re: Jake King (Merged)
Its not Kingy's fault the umps can't be unbiased like they're supposed to be. This anti-King line cuts no ice with me.
Its not Kingy's fault the umps can't be unbiased like they're supposed to be. This anti-King line cuts no ice with me.
Re: Jake King (Merged)
I suggest you find the time if you want to save face. I politely suggested you are coming from a conflicted position; you responded by making a claim you cannot support.
I've been sympathetic to your perspective re other posters' criticisms of players, if not the way it was expressed. But in that light, your slating of King is the absolute height of hypocrisy. "Do we really need a loose cannon at our club?" - you are guilty of what you've accused others of.
King is sometimes undisciplined, his suspension for tripping is warranted and hurts the team. But the facts show, King = win.
rimau35 said:
I suggest you find the time if you want to save face. I politely suggested you are coming from a conflicted position; you responded by making a claim you cannot support.
I've been sympathetic to your perspective re other posters' criticisms of players, if not the way it was expressed. But in that light, your slating of King is the absolute height of hypocrisy. "Do we really need a loose cannon at our club?" - you are guilty of what you've accused others of.
King is sometimes undisciplined, his suspension for tripping is warranted and hurts the team. But the facts show, King = win.
Re: Jake King (Merged)
At his peak, Fletcher was the dirtiest player to grace the AFL since Leigh Matthew's last few seasons. And certainly since his forebear retired.
Dustbin either got smart - unlikely, or someone at Essenbum (is that why it is called WINDY Hill - the place does stink) beat it into him to play footy and to stop the crap resulting in many suspensions and become a valuable team player, which he has for several years now.
If dunderhead Dustbin can do it, Jake will breeze it in and when he retires he can look the maggots in the eye and they will turn away in embarrasment.
In the meantime, can someone beat it into Jake to cut the unprofessional crap and stop getting suspended.
Too many folks will spew if certain duds get a chance to replace him.
The analogy with Dustbin Fletcher is interesting.Big Cat Lover said:
At his peak, Fletcher was the dirtiest player to grace the AFL since Leigh Matthew's last few seasons. And certainly since his forebear retired.
Dustbin either got smart - unlikely, or someone at Essenbum (is that why it is called WINDY Hill - the place does stink) beat it into him to play footy and to stop the crap resulting in many suspensions and become a valuable team player, which he has for several years now.
If dunderhead Dustbin can do it, Jake will breeze it in and when he retires he can look the maggots in the eye and they will turn away in embarrasment.
In the meantime, can someone beat it into Jake to cut the unprofessional crap and stop getting suspended.
Too many folks will spew if certain duds get a chance to replace him.
Re: Jake King (Merged)
There was a section of the game when I distinctly remember Kingy being tripped (I can't remember by who or what quarter) but I see that the MRP didn't cite any StKilda players. I agree that Kingy did the wrong thing and was caught and so wears the punishment but surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander?? :
There was a section of the game when I distinctly remember Kingy being tripped (I can't remember by who or what quarter) but I see that the MRP didn't cite any StKilda players. I agree that Kingy did the wrong thing and was caught and so wears the punishment but surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander?? :
Re: Jake King (Merged)
Jake's now been suspended 4 times in his last 20 or so games, mostly because of carry over points.
Two weeks for a legitimate tackle on Otten was ridiculous.
He got a week for a jumper punch on Mcgrath when Lions startd a push and shove at the start of the game, stuff that most players are not even cited for.
i cant even remember what he got done for in the last round of 2010 but again remember it was soft and it was mentioned that it cost a week only because of carry overs.
Like in matches Jake is marked harshly because of a 'reputation"
Its ironic that if you look at his frees for and against before his 'reputation' umps loved him because he put his head over the ball and was rightly rewarded.
Jake cant keep being punished disproportionately for perceived rather than actual sins. Attica...Attica... Attica...
Jake's now been suspended 4 times in his last 20 or so games, mostly because of carry over points.
Two weeks for a legitimate tackle on Otten was ridiculous.
He got a week for a jumper punch on Mcgrath when Lions startd a push and shove at the start of the game, stuff that most players are not even cited for.
i cant even remember what he got done for in the last round of 2010 but again remember it was soft and it was mentioned that it cost a week only because of carry overs.
Like in matches Jake is marked harshly because of a 'reputation"
Its ironic that if you look at his frees for and against before his 'reputation' umps loved him because he put his head over the ball and was rightly rewarded.
Jake cant keep being punished disproportionately for perceived rather than actual sins. Attica...Attica... Attica...
Re: Jake King (Merged)
King is OFTEN undisciplined, his suspension for tripping is warranted and it CERTAINLY hurts the team.
How many times are we to tolerate his HURTING THE TEAM, especially as we rise toward the success they we all want.
No individual can continue to HURT THE TEAM.
No individual should be allowed to compromise the TEAM by taking the field while hiding an injury that is affecting performance - Jake's own words - he knew his injury was affecting his performance but hid it to stay on the field.
Leaving Jake out of it. Surely you agree that "no individual should compromise the performance of the team".
Guilty as charged your Honour.LeeToRainesToRoach said:
King is OFTEN undisciplined, his suspension for tripping is warranted and it CERTAINLY hurts the team.
How many times are we to tolerate his HURTING THE TEAM, especially as we rise toward the success they we all want.
No individual can continue to HURT THE TEAM.
No individual should be allowed to compromise the TEAM by taking the field while hiding an injury that is affecting performance - Jake's own words - he knew his injury was affecting his performance but hid it to stay on the field.
Leaving Jake out of it. Surely you agree that "no individual should compromise the performance of the team".
Re: Jake King (Merged)
He's had a poor season. Well down on Nahas and Titch for both goals scored and goal assists and pressure acts. Is bottom 7 or 8 for Tigers on average tackles. Is 6th last for possessions only ahead of White, Maric, Vickery, Post and Miller. Onl good game he's realy played this year was against the Hawks. Needs to do better but a couple of frees would certainly help.
antman said:
He's had a poor season. Well down on Nahas and Titch for both goals scored and goal assists and pressure acts. Is bottom 7 or 8 for Tigers on average tackles. Is 6th last for possessions only ahead of White, Maric, Vickery, Post and Miller. Onl good game he's realy played this year was against the Hawks. Needs to do better but a couple of frees would certainly help.
Re: Jake King (Merged)
Yes, agree.
At the same time, some of the things he's been taken down for are a joke. The only reason he won't be there on Saturday is the carryover points from the Adelaide suspension. Both his guilt and the machinations of the MRP in that case are very dubious.
Put it this way, I think King's contribution with occasional interruptions is more valuable than our 23rd-best player's regular efforts.
rimau35 said:
Yes, agree.
At the same time, some of the things he's been taken down for are a joke. The only reason he won't be there on Saturday is the carryover points from the Adelaide suspension. Both his guilt and the machinations of the MRP in that case are very dubious.
Put it this way, I think King's contribution with occasional interruptions is more valuable than our 23rd-best player's regular efforts.
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