Jeff Kennett [Merged]

[Tigers of Old]

I'm all for it.

More money for T.V rights, passed on for larger salary caps and lists.I don't think the quality of football would suffer unduly.More kids would get to play AFL,more footy for us to watch and fairer draw.

Agree Evo.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but adding more rounds to the season the AFL must allow an increase to the playing list.

A longer season will see injuries and fatigue being a major hurdle to our players.

Also, a longer season deserves a pay rise.

A few careers would be shortened by the longer season. There's little doubt everything would cost a lot more and this is probably he major hurdle.
Perhaps as has been mentioned it is something the AFL could work towards over a ten year period.

Another more controversial option is to reduce the number of teams (mergers).

 

[jb03]

More footy, less interesting. I kind of like the NFL theory where you play very few games so every game actually means something. A 15 round season with a final 5 would be fantastic.

 

[poppa x]

I'll repeat what I've said on numerous other threads.

Over a four year rotational period every team plays each other 6 times (3 away 3 home) = 90 matches.

Year 1 22 games
Year 2 23 games
Year 3 22 games
Year 4 22 games
Total   90 games - bingo!

Over 4 years the draw is fair and exactly equal to EVERY team.

 

[strav]

I'll repeat what I've said on numerous other threads.

Over a four year rotational period every team plays each other 6 times (3 away 3 home) = 90 matches.

Year 1 22 games
Year 2 23 games
Year 3 22 games
Year 4 22 games
Total   90 games - bingo!

Over 4 years the draw is fair and exactly equal to EVERY team.

Your total equals to 89. Why are there 23 home and away games in year 2. Don't understand your maths. Could you please shed some light?

 

[interested]

30 Games.
Every Victorian team plays an interstate team at home, and away.
Not one Victorian team having 6 interstate games v's another having 2.
It is, in reality, the only way to have a fair system in my opinon.

 

[poppa x]

I'll repeat what I've said on numerous other threads.

Over a four year rotational period every team plays each other 6 times (3 away 3 home) = 90 matches.

Year 1 22 games
Year 2 23 games
Year 3 22 games
Year 4 23 games
Total   90 games - bingo!

Over 4 years the draw is fair and exactly equal to EVERY team.

Your total equals to 89. Why are there 23 home and away games in year 2. Don't understand your maths. Could you please shed some light?

My error - a simple typo - I've fixed it in the quote above.  Basically every 2nd year is 23 games and over 4 years clubs play each 6 times - 3 home and 3 away.

 

[purepoweryouth]

I think the AFL has to go back to 14 teams who play each other twice making 26 rounds. Also back to the Final 5 system and this way the season would be fair and about the right length.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Right now every coach is working on a rotation policy (or already has one) for their star players.

They are planning to play them in FEWER games not MORE.

The thirty round season is not on. Even if we implented it it would be a youth comp for fifteen of them.

A 15 round season with a final 5 would be fantastic.

If we change it, this is the logical way to go. How about a pre season comp where the main prize is Premiership points- say two or four? (Wouldn't Geelong love them right now? ;D)

 

[TOT70]

There is a really simple solution to this.  It depends on sending two teams interstate, leaving 8 in Victoria  and increasing to 8 in the hillbilly territories interstate.

Rounds 1 -15: everybody play everybody else.
Rounds 16-22: the Vic teams play each other again and the hillbillies play each other again, having two months of derbies, showdowns, rivalries, Northern bashes and whatever else turns them on. 

Richmond, Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon get to play each other twice every year at the G and Geelong, Melb, Saints and Hawks don't have to host too many games with small crowds.  The telephone booth will be near capacity for most games due to fewer interstate visits.  There will be no need for Vic teams to sell games interstate.

Just turf the Kangas and the Bulldogs out of Melbourne and everyone's a winner.

Simple!

 

[pahoffm]

How's this from left field.
Instead of degrading the preseason competition, I'd give it a lift.

I'd divide the season into 2 parts.

Initially I'd run a round-robin preseason competition, including finals, from February to April. This would provide an opportunity to lift the profile of the competition's major sponsors.

I'd then have a fortnight mid-season break where a mid-season trade or draft could take place.

Then, mid-May, I'd launch into the a 15 round competition where each team plays each other once, then September finals.

The reason the preseason comp doesn't work is because it is a mickey-duck operation. If we extended it, and lifted its profile & prizemoney, it would gain greater significance.

 

[jb03]

If we change it, this is the logical way to go. How about a pre season comp where the main prize is Premiership points- say two or four? (Wouldn't Geelong love them right now? ;D)

:clap JD, really like this idea. Imagine if the Pre season cup was played for a 4 point start on the field rather than prize money, perhaps with the runner up to get 2 points. They'd be no questions on whether teams are trying.

 

[Richmond United]

30 Games.
Every Victorian team plays an interstate team at home, and away.
Not one Victorian team having 6 interstate games v's another having 2.
It is, in reality, the only way to have a fair system in my opinon.

Agreed.  Make no mistake this is the biggest challenge confronting our great game.

The inequities of the draw must be eliminated to ensure that:

• the financial disparity between AFL teams is reduced
• the final 8 is a real indicator of the best 8 teams in a given yr

IMO...the inequity of the draw compromises the integrity of the whole competition.

A good start would be to get rid of the mickey mouse pre-season comp.....a game played for no premiership points is meaningless.  That's an extra 4 games there.....only another 4 to find!

Oh yeah....Mr K...another failed politician still yearning for the limelight.

 

[Baloo]

I think the AFL has to go back to 14 teams who play each other twice making 26 rounds. Also back to the Final 5 system and this way the season would be fair and about the right length.

Actually, this does make the most sense long term.  So who merges ?  North & Footscray ?  Melbourne & Hawthorn ?

I also like the idea of a midyear trading period. Something the AFL should seriously look into.

 

[poppa x]

I think the AFL has to go back to 14 teams who play each other twice making 26 rounds. Also back to the Final 5 system and this way the season would be fair and about the right length.

Actually, this does make the most sense long term.  So who merges ?  North & Footscray ?  Melbourne & Hawthorn ?

I also like the idea of a midyear trading period.  Something the AFL should seriously look into.

eagles and shockers
crows and snort

 

[interested]

I'd then have a fortnight mid-season break where a mid-season trade or draft could take place.

I hate the idea of a midseason draft.

 

[Ian4]

Now I know Jeff was a bit of a legend(Depending on ones point of view)for pulling my beloved Victoria back from the brink.....

And in closing.....what did PREnders think of Kennet as premier im them days.....Gives me a chance to catch up on state politics(sorry Rosy,shoulda put this on the general Talk forum...ah well!) ???

nitro, as our mothers teach us... if you cant say anything nice about a person, then don't say anything at all...

I agreee: if you look at the fundamentals of the league: it is generally run very well : - except this historic problem of the draw:

the three things that need to be addressed are 1. Equal number of genuine home games

and that means 11 home games for richmond in melbourne. none of this crap home game intersate idea

If the season was to run for 30 weeks there would be understandibly extra stress and wear on players, one way to minimise this would be to shorten the game by around 7 minutes a qtr (roughly 30 mins a game)

good suggestion but with 4 extra home games, what would that mean to the cost of membership? 15 home games compared to 11 would increase the cost of membership by at least 35%