Phantom said:
Agreed. I will certainly cheer him off.
Been a very good player for the Tiges over a long & difficult period.
Smart footballer too. Reckon he'd get a coaching gig somewhere if he pursues that option.
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Joel Bowden must never play senior footy again
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Agreed. I will certainly cheer him off.
Been a very good player for the Tiges over a long & difficult period.
Smart footballer too. Reckon he'd get a coaching gig somewhere if he pursues that option.
Re: No point in having 30+ possessions
That's right - He wouldn't take on the game as a senior player when we were the team dictating terms.
Terrible example. He's already had one resurrection.
Moore, McGuane and co. have learnt all they possibly can. I'd rather see them making mistakes and having the opportunity to learn the craft on their terms. To have that responsibility for better or worse.
Twice AA Joel in an inexperienced backline. That time has gone. Could still be useful for Coburg.
What odds he get's one last try this week, to relive last years glories at AAMI - along with a recall for Morton ?
I'm sure there'll be an MCG send-off later in the year - for him and Kane J - ala Tivendale ... Melbourne Rd.18 ?
waiting said:
That's right - He wouldn't take on the game as a senior player when we were the team dictating terms.
Terrible example. He's already had one resurrection.
Moore, McGuane and co. have learnt all they possibly can. I'd rather see them making mistakes and having the opportunity to learn the craft on their terms. To have that responsibility for better or worse.
Twice AA Joel in an inexperienced backline. That time has gone. Could still be useful for Coburg.
What odds he get's one last try this week, to relive last years glories at AAMI - along with a recall for Morton ?
I'm sure there'll be an MCG send-off later in the year - for him and Kane J - ala Tivendale ... Melbourne Rd.18 ?
Even Gerard Healy said last night that Round 18 could shape up as the Tom Scully cup. Leave the farewell games for Round 21.
we hang around each other on the ground then wonder why theres no-one to kick to and we stop and prop and dont want to run hard to offer multiple disposal options, we need to learn for starters where to position ourselves when our team has got the ball
sportshow said:
I can see he does good things down back, but his bad things and particularly his bad examples (esp the chips sideways) outweigh them now.
Still, I think he has been great up forward, and I would like to see him spend at least another year with us, playing (at least predominantly) up there. Good hands, cool head, goal-kicker. The new position might revitalise him; he won't need too much learning, as he's experienced there; and there'll be less temptation to fall into old habits.
A bit of defensive work might set a good example to some of our other forwards.
No, I think we should be doing both (you get nowhere near a flag without winning games!).
I just don't want to see a full-on bottoming-out/development strategy that leaves us in the wilderness for another few years still without a guaranteed return, while our good "developed" players like Foley and Lids get demotivated and jaded.
There seems an (understandably) attractive wish here sometimes to tear up our current list and start all over - I'm saying we don't need to do that; and in particular, we don't need to unthinkingly delist anyone over a certain age. Especially someone who not long ago won us a few games on his own through the cool head of experience.
I just don't want to see a full-on bottoming-out/development strategy that leaves us in the wilderness for another few years still without a guaranteed return, while our good "developed" players like Foley and Lids get demotivated and jaded.
There seems an (understandably) attractive wish here sometimes to tear up our current list and start all over - I'm saying we don't need to do that; and in particular, we don't need to unthinkingly delist anyone over a certain age. Especially someone who not long ago won us a few games on his own through the cool head of experience.
HeadandShin said:
That's what Wallace and Frawley thought.
This is Richmond we are talking about.
This might be true for a club who has a handful of genuine leaders like what Geelong or Sydney had at the time of their climb up the ladder, but unfortunately we haven't.
We have no leaders, our culture is pathetic and we desperately need a clean slate and a proper rebuild from the foundations up.
