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Junior talls at the various clubs.

pahoffm

pahoffm

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Mar 24, 2004
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With much talk of why we need to go tall in the next draft, I thought I'd put up a comparative table of junior players 195cm or over at the various clubs.

Personally, it is how didderent clubs set themselves up with junior talls that govern how successful their future structures will be.

I'd be interested in your observations & opinions.


Team
195-199cm 200cm+
Name Ht Age Pos. Name Ht Age Pos.
Adelaide
Maric 198 21 R Griffin 202 21 R
Sellar 195 17 U Meeson 200 20 R
Tippett 201 19 F
Brisbane
M.Clark 198 19 F Wood 204 20 R
Mills 196 19 D Leuenberger 203 18 R
Tippett 196 18 F
Carlton
Hartlett 195 20 F A.O'Hailpin 201 21 R
Kennedy 195 19 F Hampson 201 18 R
Jacobs 200 18 R
Collingwood
T.Cloke 195 20 F
Reid 196 18 F
Essendon
Bradley 195 21 D McKinnon 204 20 R
Lee 195 20 D
Ryder 197 18 R
Gumbleton 197 18 F
Fremantle
Warnock 205 20 R
Geelong
N.Ablett 195 21 F Blake 200 21 R
West 198 19 R
Hawkins 197 18 F
Hawthorn
Dawson 195 21 D Bailey 206 20 R
Franklin 196 20 F Renouf 200 18 R
McEntee 197 19 R
Dowler 195 19 F
Kangaroos
Hansen 197 18 D Moran 200 20 R
Hutchison 196 18 F Goldstein 201 18 R
Melbourne
Neaves 199 18 R
Port Adelaide
Chaplin 196 21 D Deluca 203 20 R
Cockshell 199 20 R Minson 202 19 R
Westhoff 199 20 R
Willits 197 20 F
Giles 199 19 R
Richmond
Pattison 198 21 F Graham 200 19 R
St Kilds
Watts 197 21 F Rheenen 201 19 R
Wall 199 20 U
Sydney
Shaw 199 20 R Currie 200 17 R
Rowe 196 19 R
White 196 18 U
Westcoast
Spaandemann 198 21 R
Mackenzie 196 18 D
Schofield 195 17 U
Bulldogs
Minson 198 21 R Wight 200 21 R
Walsh 196 21 F
Williams 196 20 D
Tiller 195 20 F
West 195 20 F
 
Nice tables, but I think to get a true picture you need to list the 191-194 kids at each club also. If you look at most teams alot of KPPs fall into this bracket.
 
Does Rix (StK) qualify as a jnr? And what are his current build stats?
Cheers
 
Disco08 said:
Nice tables, but I think to get a true picture you need to list the 191-194 kids at each club also. If you look at most teams alot of KPPs fall into this bracket.
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Fair comment.
I'll proceed on that now.
 
Herewego.

I hope I've formatted this correctly.
Because of width restrictions, I've deleted the height & position fields.

I find it interesting to note the distribution of the ages within each group.
Some clubs take 1 or 2 talls each year.
Others show a particular bias in a year.
Mind you, the age is not an accurate indicator of when the player was taken.

Team Team
190-194cm 195-199cm 200cm+
Name Age Name Age Name Age
Adelaide
Maric 21 Griffin 21
Sellar 17 Meeson 20
Tippett 19
Brisbane
Garner 20 M.Clark 19 Wood 20
Clouston 19 Mills 19 Leuenberger 18
Tyler 18 Tippett 18
Carlton
Jamison 20 Hartlett 20 A.O'Hailpin 21
Bower 19 Kennedy 19 Hampson 18
Raso 19 Jacobs 18
Edwards 19
Grigg 18
Austin 17
Collingwood
Cox 21 T.Cloke 20
Rusling 20 Reid 18
Anthony 19
Goldsack 19
Pendlebury 19
Brown 18
Dawes 18
Essendon
Charters 20 Bradley 21 McKinnon 20
*smile* 18 Lee 20
Ryder 18
Gumbleton 18
Fremantle
Mundy 21 Warnock 20
Murphy 21
Copping 20
Drum 19
Mourish 18
Geelong
Grima 20 N.Ablett 21 Blake 21
West 19
Hawkins 18
Hawthorn
Thurgood 21 Dawson 21 Bailey 20
Roughead 20 Franklin 20 Renouf 18
Birchall 19 McEntee 19
Morton 18 Dowler 19
Thorp 17
Kangaroos
Smith 20 Hansen 18 Moran 20
Hughes 18 Hutchison 18 Goldstein 18
Melbourne
Newton 19 Neaves 18
Dunn 19
Bate 19
Frawley 18
Garland 18
Port Adelaide
Carlile 19 Chaplin 21 Deluca 20
Stewart 19 Cockshell 20 Minson 19
Grose 18 Westhoff 20
Lee 18 Willits 20
Giles 19
Richmond
Schulz 21 Pattison 21 Graham 19
McGuane 20
Thursfield 20
Hughes 20
Riewoldt 18
St Kilds
Goddard 21 Watts 21 Rheenen 19
Gilbert 20 Wall 20
Allen 18
Sydney
Barlow 20 Shaw 20 Currie 17
Grundy 20 Rowe 19
Davis 20 White 18
Faulks 18
Westcoast
Wilkes 21 Spaandemann 21
Rosa 20 Mackenzie 18
Spanger 19 Schofield 17
Thompson 18
Brown 17
Bulldogs
Baird 20 Minson 21 Wight 21
Everitt 18 Walsh 21
O'Shea 17 Williams 20
Tiller 20
West 20
 
Great work. Very interesting and hard to really draw conclusions from without further analysis of where teams are at overall.
 
Looks to me like the magic number in that first post Phanto is 5. Most clubs have 5 developing guys 195cm+. We have 2. :help
 
Tigermad2005 said:
Just wondering why the Brown at collingwood is 18 yet his brother is 17? :hihi :hihi
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Maybe I did the Collingwood & Westcoast analyses on different days. ;)

This is also a good indicator of which clubs we may be competing against for talls in the next draft.
 
Funny how the dogs have the image of been a short team yet they have so much height on there list,just proves no point havin a heap of talls if they cant play ;D.

Thanks Phanto :clap
 
CC TIGER said:
Funny how the dogs have the image of been a short team yet they have so much height on there list,just proves no point havin a heap of talls if they cant play ;D.

Thanks Phanto :clap
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Remember CC, we are looking at junior talls (18-21yo), not mature (25-27) or developing (22-24) talls.

Over the last 3 years, the Bullies have been setting themselves up for the future.
 
tigerblood82 said:
Hey Phantom,
Does David Hale qualify at the roos?
(the reason we lost our under18 granny)
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I've got David Hale just out of the junior (18-21) section and into the developing (22-24) section.
 
skiptomystu said:
Looks to me like the magic number in that first post Phanto is 5. Most clubs have 5 developing guys 195cm+. We have 2. :help
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There's a few good teams on the list with less than 5. Melbourne (1), Freo (1), Collingwood (1), West Coast (3) and St Kilda (3) all played finals last year.
 
Disco08 said:
skiptomystu said:
Looks to me like the magic number in that first post Phanto is 5. Most clubs have 5 developing guys 195cm+. We have 2. :help
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There's a few good teams on the list with less than 5. Melbourne (1), Freo (1), Collingwood (1), West Coast (3) and St Kilda (3) all played finals last year.
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True, but remember that we are looking at juniors, ie how well clubs are set up for talls in the future.

Not judging results a year ago, but how teams are likely to be structured in 3-4 years time.
 
One of the major points of this theme is that talls command a premium from a trade perspective.

Look at what Hawthorn extracted for Hay, Thompson and Everitt over successive years despite their age. Similarly Port got a great deal for Barry Brooks off the Saints a few years ago.

This is one reason I am frustrated at our current lack of ruckmen. Even more frustrating is that Rix and McKinnon were at Coburg and are now at other clubs. Whilst their not champion they provide depth.
 
Phantom your obsession with talls is overboard I think. The game is moving towards 4 good talls and the rest runners. Give me 18 quality midfielders eg WC and they will make a half decent tall (Lynch & Hansen) look like a Jason Dunstall with their skills.


My other point is with Patto. Is he a ruckman or KPP. I have a bit of time for him but I think his position is in the ruck. If we are hoping for him to be a KPP then we are in a bit of trouble.
 
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