Kick Ins from a Behind

[knighter33]

Easy solution to who kicks in....
The way he's playing at the moment- who else but Richo???!!!

Example:
plays on,
players shepherd him,
runs coast to coast,
loads up at about the 50m arc,
goal!!!

Easy peasy

 

[premiers2011]

Absolutely, newman should be kicking out as he's kicking is more pin point. Have guys then like king or macmahon close by to take the short pass and let them run and carry out of the defensive 50.

The problem is their playing him up the ground more so he's not back there to take them a lot of the time.
But agree he's the best man for the job.

 

[Bill James]

Yeah agree. They always left either Maguane or Thursfield alone 'cos they knew they weren't gonna hurt us by foot.
This meant they only had to zone 80% and did it to perfection. very well drilled team.

Thursfield and Magaune were the tiges number one and two for %effective diposals today

 

[JR8]

It's called Frawleyism.

I think you mean Frawleyitis.

I've heard it takes a good 3-4 yrs to completely recover from.

 

[frickenel]

I couldnt understand it, we're on the wing we can see free players in the pockets but for some reason we kept kicking to a 50/50 contest and i agree i would say 3 goals were put through by the hawks from this ploy of kicking to a pack.

The Hawks set up was conceding a possession to a loose player in the pocket, but if you looked up thew ground they had 4 guys lined from true forward flank to the wing position. Had we used this guy, which we were in the first half, there was no space for a second possession, and the next kick when the umpire called to move it on was inevitably across the face of goal deep to the opposite pocket!

In the second half, we stopped taking the bait and started kicking to a contest that was set up with one tall as a designated marker (usually Polak) with a second providing some protection from behind. Crumbers were often at the fall, but so were hawk crumbers. I guess it was a quickly thought up plan to stop the disaster that was taking place from the kickout in the first half, and not wholly effective!

IT certainly was a highly intensive tackling game which i think contributed to us handballing so much from referred pressure! Unfortunately, when we did get into a position to kick, all too often we kept handballing until the squadrons of hawk tacklers tightened the noose causing us to cough it up. The good thing was our own tackling was also causing turnovers by the hawks.

 

[Rosy]

Wouldn't it be better to have a plan to kick out quickly rather than give the opposition a chance to setup while we wait for a designated kickerouterer to get back there?

 

[cam]

A lot of problems stem from the seeming paranoia about kicking to contests. This is still something that teams should do on occasion, especially when encountering floods and zones.

Sides lose out more often when trying to over posess and pin point short passes/handball in congested areas, rather than taking a risk, going longer to a contest and getting numbers to the ball to win it and move on.

Totally agree.

When we did start to do that late in the game we kicked it to the flanks and only with a 50m kick. Get Newman in there and get him to kick it 60m right up the guts!

 

[Dyer'ere]

the stats showed us kicking two goals from kick ins on the weekend. I can vaguely remember one of them. Anybody paying a bit more attention than I was?

 

[Scoop]

I actually thoguht our long options were OK.

Simmonds and Polak go to the same side of the ground, Polak is the primary marking option and Simmonds essentially jumps with Polak and protects him from the pack. Pretty good tactic for a get out option, which the long ball is. Polak just kept dropping the mark.

Don't discredit the Hawks zone, they are the masters of blocking the corridor. When we went wide quickly (past the defensive 50) we seemed to go much better. For once working the ball into the corridor was not the preferred option, we had to go wide with precise and quick ball movement. It worked a couple of times.

 

[Leysy Days]

I actually thoguht our long options were OK.

Simmonds and Polak go to the same side of the ground, Polak is the primary marking option and Simmonds essentially jumps with Polak and protects him from the pack. Pretty good tactic for a get out option, which the long ball is. Polak just kept dropping the mark.

Don't discredit the Hawks zone, they are the masters of blocking the corridor. When we went wide quickly (past the defensive 50) we seemed to go much better. For once working the ball into the corridor was not the preferred option, we had to go wide with precise and quick ball movement. It worked a couple of times.

Good posting Scoop,

Wallet done quite well with his long kicking fallback theory on playing the zone. There's plenty to work with there.

Thinking about it, they have 14 or so players covering the ground evenly. Whats to stop the majority of your players starting out at the defensive 60m mark at CHB. They all move to the top of the square diagonally on ONE side, You are going to massively outnumber the hawks at the ball. The big men either mark it pass it on or knock down to the plethora of players in numbers who are breaking past. Keep 3 or so at CHF as leading options as well.

Sure its high risk & there's a chance of a turnover to the Hawks who are all free in the attacking 50m for an easy goal, but with extra numbers at the designated fall you'll win more than you lose & there's be an open forward 50 to attack to as well.

What you are doing is making a rendering a number of Hawks players in the zone useless, leysy believes this "zone" will get blown away by some sides as the year goes on.

 

[Scoop]

Good posting Scoop,

Wallet done quite well with his long kicking fallback theory on playing the zone. There's plenty to work with there.

Thinking about it, they have 14 or so players covering the ground evenly. Whats to stop the majority of your players starting out at the defensive 60m mark at CHB. They all move to the top of the square diagonally on ONE side, You are going to massively outnumber the hawks at the ball. The big men either mark it pass it on or knock down to the plethora of players in numbers who are breaking past. Keep 3 or so at CHF as leading options as well.

Sure its high risk & there's a chance of a turnover to the Hawks who are all free in the attacking 50m for an easy goal, but with extra numbers at the designated fall you'll win more than you lose & there's be an open forward 50 to attack to as well.

What you are doing is making a rendering a number of Hawks players in the zone useless, leysy believes this "zone" will get blown away by some sides as the year goes on.

Not bad Brian. I think the long option is the way to go. I don't subscribe to the it's more dangerous theory. More dangerous then stuffing up a chip kick sideways 20m out? We could have six seven more inside 50's if Polak was holding his grabs, a mark at the defensive end of the square is probably the most attacking point on the ground going forward.

With the flood you have to option peeling off the contest before it happens because you need to move the ball quickly to break up the zone with the second kick. It's a fine line between peeling off and staying in the contest.

Your right though, that zone won't last all year.