I am sure there must be some correlation between Hawthorn's inaccuracy and ours given Dimma has moulded his game plan on the Hawthorn system. I am just not smart enough to work it out.
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kicking for goal
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As TOT touched on, and as we raised last year to not a lot of support, (actually most thought, probably rightly ;D we were going mad) there are two sides to our goalkicking woes.
One is that we are missing too many set shots. This needs to be improved. Absolutely.
Secondly though, is that whilst we can get better, due to our gameplan we will never be an accurate team in front of goal.
Reason - apart from one or two players we all push forward & overcrowd our forward line to lock it in, we also go to the boundary when there's no clear target to force throw-ins. This is good in that we get the game played in our front half, the trade off is we often won't have time & space to execute our shot ergo our poor goal to point & goal to inside 50 ratios.
We can improve but unless we're under very little pressure from the opposition under the current structure we're never going to be a precise team in front of goal.
One is that we are missing too many set shots. This needs to be improved. Absolutely.
Secondly though, is that whilst we can get better, due to our gameplan we will never be an accurate team in front of goal.
Reason - apart from one or two players we all push forward & overcrowd our forward line to lock it in, we also go to the boundary when there's no clear target to force throw-ins. This is good in that we get the game played in our front half, the trade off is we often won't have time & space to execute our shot ergo our poor goal to point & goal to inside 50 ratios.
We can improve but unless we're under very little pressure from the opposition under the current structure we're never going to be a precise team in front of goal.
BT Tiger said:
I remember reading some time ago that the Sports Biomechanics experts would only allow players to practice a number of set shots for goal at training. Riewoldt had to get a neighbours kid to go to the park with him so he could practice kicking for goal outside the footy club
How do they expect to get thier kicking for goal right if they cant practice it?
Leysy Days said:
Yep. We will never get away with missing 5-7 direct shots at goal in a game against a decent team.
Leysy Days said:
Pretty much every team kicks towards the boundary now, in preference to turning the ball over 20m directly in front of the goal. Turn it over there to a Goddard or a Shaun Burgoyne and you are 15 seconds away from another ad-break and a delirious rant from the other team’s Cheer-squad.
Leysy Days said:
This is where we need to get better. We spend far too much time locking the ball in the forward line for the reward of a few points. It is unrealistic to expect that the ball will never get out the back and, when it does, it is usually an easy run in for a goal to the other team. After all, that is where the space is.
Those phases of play need to end with a goal to us, not a handful of points and a goal to them. It gets back to kicking, we miss too many set shots, we miss too many long bombs from outside 50 (Houli, Martin, Deledio, Newman), too many snaps (Titch Edwards, Nahas) and too many balls end up around our crowded goal-square where they are scrubbed through for a rushed point.
btoz_01 said:
Lloyd and Lucus had the same problem at Essendon a decade ago. Sports science team wouldn't allow them to do extra goal kicking practice out of fear of over training. They did it anyway and the results spoke for themselves.
Maybe our players are just plain tired when taking their set shots due to the taxing nature our our forward press? Anyway, the club is clearly aware of the problem but it's not so easily fixed.
Dyer'ere said:
Oue best kickers are the worst offenders.
Riewoldt, Cotchin and Martin were terrible in front of goal last season, they were all around the 50% mark.
And on the weekend two of our more average kickers in Mcguane and White showed the way in how to kick straight for goal.
Ya gotta laugh at this game sometimes.
Pettard kicks the winning goal, finally, after a long run of misses and immediately gets the signal to leave the field, no more football for you today, son. We can't have any more of that.
Can’t we leave him on the field and take off some of the guys who kicked points instead?
Pettard kicks the winning goal, finally, after a long run of misses and immediately gets the signal to leave the field, no more football for you today, son. We can't have any more of that.
Can’t we leave him on the field and take off some of the guys who kicked points instead?
TOT70 said:
couldn't agree more.
it seems we're so worried about the ball getting to the midfield we'd rather constrict and scramble crappy points.
the best teams release their forwards into space. when is dimma going to trust our defensive skills enought to play like the big boys?
I have little doubt that A Edwards and McDonough were recruited at least partially because they have the goal kicking skills necessary to hit the 40/60 boundary line shots. Unfortunately both are struggle with the ‘getting a kick’ business right now so they won’t be the answer to our goal kicking woes in round 1.
Tigerflag2008 said:
I think the the Hawks inaccuracy is because of one brilliant but erratic key forward. I think we're more like the 2010-11 Pies. We kick to the pockets to lock the ball in a forward press, but it means we get low percentage shots for goals.
Who is the forward line Coach??? Surely its their responsibility to sort this out.
For too long Richmond have been woeful when it comes to kicking for goal be it
set shots or on the run.
To be a geniune finals contender its vital that when the chance comes to score
its taken.
That means the players have to practice goal kicking inside/outside 50, at all
angles and on the run or in a pack grab and snap. It means the players must
know where they are on the field and where the goals are at any given time.
I would also like to see some of the forward line players learn to kick with their
other foot. Some will say it can't be done, waste of time etc, I disagree if you
know how kick with both feet and you can do it well, then it eliminates the issue
of right foot in left pocket etc, it also gives a player much better options in tight
situations like a pack you don't have to rely on one foot you have two instead
which makes it that much harder for the defenders.
I'd love to see the boys down at Punt Road, kicking the footy in all sorts of
scenarios and doing so for a couple of hours straight not once a week but 3 times
a week to build up consistency.
Once you become confident in kicking, the goal score will increase accordingly.
Until then we are going to see more close games where we may not get over the line.
For too long Richmond have been woeful when it comes to kicking for goal be it
set shots or on the run.
To be a geniune finals contender its vital that when the chance comes to score
its taken.
That means the players have to practice goal kicking inside/outside 50, at all
angles and on the run or in a pack grab and snap. It means the players must
know where they are on the field and where the goals are at any given time.
I would also like to see some of the forward line players learn to kick with their
other foot. Some will say it can't be done, waste of time etc, I disagree if you
know how kick with both feet and you can do it well, then it eliminates the issue
of right foot in left pocket etc, it also gives a player much better options in tight
situations like a pack you don't have to rely on one foot you have two instead
which makes it that much harder for the defenders.
I'd love to see the boys down at Punt Road, kicking the footy in all sorts of
scenarios and doing so for a couple of hours straight not once a week but 3 times
a week to build up consistency.
Once you become confident in kicking, the goal score will increase accordingly.
Until then we are going to see more close games where we may not get over the line.
At the end of the day the players themselves are responsible for their goal kicking.
They can practice all week and slot them all over the place at training but if they can't bring it mentally on game day then all the coaching in the world won't help.
Choc and co. can't kick it for them.
Freaked me out seeing Elton kicking for goal recently. He's our next forward coming through the ranks and looks to spray them worse than most.
We need guys who can convert the hard work up field.
They can practice all week and slot them all over the place at training but if they can't bring it mentally on game day then all the coaching in the world won't help.
Choc and co. can't kick it for them.
Freaked me out seeing Elton kicking for goal recently. He's our next forward coming through the ranks and looks to spray them worse than most.
We need guys who can convert the hard work up field.