Lets not Forget.....

[FSUB10Y]

........that if it wasn't for Wallace's selfishness, none of this would ever have taken place.

During his 4.5 year tenure, he has come up with every excuse under the sun, and has blamed everyone else bar himself. Again, on Sunday night, he laid blame to 1 incident that could cost him his job - even though we were already 1-6, and going backwards in rapid knots.

What Newman did was not justifiable, the person who has leaked this to the media must be sacked if found out, however the ROOT CAUSE cause of all of this purely and simply be put down to Wallace's standing within the group.

He now finds himself in a position where he has lost the support of Management, staff, players and supporters, yet continues to rock up to his workplace day after day - anyone with a little bit of self esteem, honour, and dignity would simply accept that they have failed in their assignment, and walk away.....

.......but no, Mr Wallace plays this "I wouldn't expect my players to walk away" card and has everyone fooled......he is simply hanging around for the $$$$$$$$$$$.......and keeping the club in a hibernation state until he departs.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Totally agree.
Wallet is the catalyst for this calamity.

His desire to look after himself come what may due to his rotten departure from the Dogs has caused this mess.

Not excusing others embroiled in it but he is the root cause.

The fish rots from the head.

 

[Rosy]

Agree on Terry. Disagree on Newmo.

 

[FSUB10Y]

Agree on Terry. Disagree on Newmo.

I said what Newmo did was not justified....do you think it was justified??

 

[MurrayValleyTiger]

You've just cost ME MY JOB. Says it all to me. Ego has not allowed TW to coach in a manner that in the long term was in the best interests of the RFC.

 

[btoz_01]

Its all about Walla$e and his :spin :spin manipualting the situation.
Its upto those in charge to take charge and stop the farce that is going on.
You lose the players youre gone end of story.

 

[Rosy]

I said what Newmo did was not justified....do you think it was justified??

No, definitely not. I think Terry is a massive problem but I don't think the root cause is to be purely and simply put down to Terry's standing within the group as you said. I think the captain and the players have to cop some flak for the situation too.

 

[FSUB10Y]

No, definitely not. I think Terry is a massive problem but I don't think the root cause is to be purely and simply put down to Terry's standing within the group as you said. I think the captain and the players have to cop some flak for the situation too.

so we agree....

 

[Rosy]

so we agree....

I don't really know sorry FSB. Maybe if you clarify your sentence in the quote below. Is there a word missing? It doesn't quite make sense and maybe I'm misreading what you meant.

What Newman did was not justifiable, the person who has leaked this to the media must be sacked if found out, however the ROOT CAUSE cause of all of this purely and simply be put down to Wallace's standing within the group.

 

[Cuzzo]

Its all about Walla$e and his :spin :spin manipualting the situation.
Its upto those in charge to take charge and stop the farce that is going on.
You lose the players youre gone end of story.

Come on the players lost it when they had the temerity to try and oust the coach. Winning positions against Sydney/Brisbane/Port Adelaide and they blow it ! Honestly how long are we going to keep letting these soft individuals off the hook.I bet they cant wait to get a new coach and all that pressure gets unloaded off them again and onto the poor soull that gets the coaches job.
Meanwhile back at the player group we just pick up our pay cheque and get on with our lives - all care but no responsiblilty.

Theres your farce right there !

 

[FSUB10Y]

I don't really know sorry FSB. Maybe if you clarify your sentence in the quote below. Is there a word missing? It doesn't quite make sense and maybe I'm misreading what you meant.

I have said that what Newman did was NOT justifiable....

 

[btoz_01]

Come on the players lost it when they had the temerity to try and oust the coach. Winning positions against Sydney/Brisbane/Port Adelaide and they blow it ! Honestly how long are we going to keep letting these soft individuals off the hook.I bet they cant wait to get a new coach and all that pressure gets unloaded off them again and onto the poor soull that gets the coaches job.
Meanwhile back at the player group we just pick up our pay cheque and get on with our lives - all care but no responsiblilty.

Theres your farce right there !

So we sack 13 or more senior players who dont want to play under the "dead man walking coach" as hes not to blame. As none of it is his fault that weve only won 1 game out of 8 so far and we give him a contract extension. :crazy :crazy

 

[tigerdave]

RFC - Lest we Forget!

 

[Rosy]

I have said that what Newman did was NOT justifiable....

Yes and I have already indicated to your previous question about it that I agreed with that. You seem to place a lot of emphasis on me agreeing, yet you haven't clarified the sentence I asked you to. It really seems to be missing a word and could be easy to accidentally misunderstand.

however the ROOT CAUSE cause of all of this purely and simply be put down to Wallace's standing within the group.

Do you mean can be, should be, shouldn't be? There's something missing and whatever it is could change the whole context of me agreeing or not.

 

[Cuzzo]

So we sack 13 or more senior players who dont want to play under the "dead man walking coach" as hes not to blame. As none of it is his fault that weve only won 1 game out of 8 so far and we give him a contract extension. :crazy :crazy

They should be playing for whoever is in that role end of story - fundamental to our situation is a group of players (oh by the by whose talent is in question) dictating to our football club.Watch whoever steps in clean out at least half your lucky 13 before he sits down at his desk !

 

[btoz_01]

They should be playing for whoever is in that role end of story - fundamental to our situation is a group of players (oh by the by whose talent is in question) dictating to our football club.Watch whoever steps in clean out at least half your lucky 13 before he sits down at his desk !

Yes lead us ol Terry and blindly we shall follow :brickwall :brickwall.
Again its the players fault for standing up because theres no game plan. Would we be 1 win and 7 losses if we had a game plan and a coach who actually can coach? Over 4 years at the club and are no better off than when he first started.

 

[IrockZ]

People are just now realising Wallace is a selfish SOB?

I would of thought putting Richo back onto the ground when he could hardly move was a clear example amongst the many over 5 years

 

[Liverpool]

There is no "root cause".
We've spoken about the 'culture' (to use a common term) of this club on this forum now for years.
Everyone is jumping up and down about this one because of a leak but how many times in the past have similar things happened?
Didn't Northey have a disagreement with certain players before the end of his tenure? Didn't Frawley have to deal with player factions towards the end of his reign as well?

Many have bagged Newman and want him to stand down....and I can see their point because he hasn't got the right to try and get rid of the coach.

But I think also that these dissident players (including Newman) who wanted Wallace out maybe have the best interest of the club at heart.....they know they are going nowhere with him, they know he is playing players that don't deserve a game, and maybe they want a lot of the kids in the team now seeing that us making the finals is a remote chance at best yet Wallace is refusing to play them because he wants to win a few games to try and save HIS career. The outburst against Morton an example of this.

Then you have the players like Bowden, Richo, and I'm sure N.Brown as well who don't want Wallace to go......but these players are the ones who know they are going to get games under Wallace, so of course they don't want him to go.
However, they may also see it as unstable to the club to have Wallace sacked....that it would look bad for any potential coach to have another coach sacked at Richmond, and also that it wouldn't be good financially to have to pay Wallace out and upgrade one of the assistants, or worse still, hire a new one right now when we are in a period of economic instability where many businesses are not hiring at all.
Football clubs no different.

Its a very difficult situation and I think the only way you can rectify something like this which has been a long-term cancer over 10-20 years is we wipe out all the coaching staff....and wipe out all players over the age of 25, no matter who they are or their standing at the club.
Make someone like Lids captain and start again....and if takes 5 years of losses to build a competitive and decent team, then so be it...but it would be quicker still than what we have endured now for many many years.