jb03 said:
The atmosphere during the last quarter was just plain weird. I'm like Libba - I believe we tanked but obviously can't prove it, and have no desire to.
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Libba's claims on footy show
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The atmosphere during the last quarter was just plain weird. I'm like Libba - I believe we tanked but obviously can't prove it, and have no desire to.
No doubt in my mind that Carlton tanked but they only did what was in their best interests. There is also no doubt in my mind that the Richmond hierarchy had no intention of winning the rnd 22 game against St Kilda last year either. At various stages in that last quarter Brown, Bowden, Deledio and Foley all spent significant time on the bench when we were in a winnable position. But like Ratten, Wallace and Co did what was in the best interests of the club.
The real issue here is the priority pick system and the incentive it offers struggling clubs particularly in the later stages of the season NOT to try and win games.
What Demetriou and the AFL commission need to decide is if the priority pick system and the assistance it gives bottom teams is worth the blight on the game it produces.
The real issue here is the priority pick system and the incentive it offers struggling clubs particularly in the later stages of the season NOT to try and win games.
What Demetriou and the AFL commission need to decide is if the priority pick system and the assistance it gives bottom teams is worth the blight on the game it produces.
TigerFurious said:
That's why the situation is untenable for Dimmy. One of the following will happen:
1) he ignores the problem and tanking continues while the game's integrity suffers
2) he changes the system with "We don't believe tankling occurs, but we're doing it because of public perception"
3) he changes the system and admits the AFL was wrong
none of which would be very palatable. My tip is 2), but not for a while.
DirtyDogTiger said:i agree with everything in your post...but it doesn't mean my conspiracy theory isn't possible either.
they are not mutually exclusive
Well I'm not going to disagree too hard with anything that makes me hate Carlton more
is it just me or is it a fact everytime carlton have cheated the rfc have suffered.they tank we miiss any opportunity to get judd and miss out on the first pick in the draft. they cheat and we lose pick 2 with no compensation. is it just me or has it been us who missed out every time recruiting rules get changed. ie priority pick at start of first round to the start of the second round. or is it just us that missed out on having decent psd players to chose from when we have pick 1 because they change the rule late picks dont have to be used when traded.
we all know what will happen nextthe afl will do away with the priority pick when we finish last.
how about we do away with the priority pick as we know it.
whats wrong with having an independant board access wheather a clubs list is in need of a priority pick regardless of how many wins a team has. take the win loss part out of the equation.
quite clearly any board would have said the rfc desperately needs a priority first round pick last yr. a case where they would not have given a first round pick was collingwood the yr they drafted thomas. they had a hell of a lot of injuries and they sent their best players of early to get fixed up.
everything can then be taken into consideration.2 or 3 very low finishes in a row. the amount of injuries a club cops. and to who. a clubs age and depth etc etc. the one criteria i think that should happen with the draft is all priority picks must be used by the recipient along with their first pick. no trading them away.the whole idea of priority picks is to give the recipients a crack at the best kids in the country ensuring in the medium to long term that clubs do indeed get some sort of success down the track.
we all know what will happen nextthe afl will do away with the priority pick when we finish last.
how about we do away with the priority pick as we know it.
whats wrong with having an independant board access wheather a clubs list is in need of a priority pick regardless of how many wins a team has. take the win loss part out of the equation.
quite clearly any board would have said the rfc desperately needs a priority first round pick last yr. a case where they would not have given a first round pick was collingwood the yr they drafted thomas. they had a hell of a lot of injuries and they sent their best players of early to get fixed up.
everything can then be taken into consideration.2 or 3 very low finishes in a row. the amount of injuries a club cops. and to who. a clubs age and depth etc etc. the one criteria i think that should happen with the draft is all priority picks must be used by the recipient along with their first pick. no trading them away.the whole idea of priority picks is to give the recipients a crack at the best kids in the country ensuring in the medium to long term that clubs do indeed get some sort of success down the track.
the claw said:
Very good post clawman totally agree...
About the independant board, i hope you're on it cause we'll have priority pics every year :happy
Just goes to prove the age old theory Claw.the claw said:
When your nose is buried in the dirt and your bared arse is pointing skyward you just know that it's going to get kicked by everyone who passes by.
No use crying about it. Picking yourself up, dusting yourself off, and firing back with whatever you've got is the only way to stop it happening.
No matter how many times you get sat back on your arse in the process.
ok libba, you say you're a pretty honest bloke (I think you stated that 3-4 times at least in your footy show interview). So could you tell us please, if you were honest on there when you said you believed that they tanked.
Or were you honest here when you said ""If they say to me, 'Do you think Carlton tanked?', I would say, 'I don't think they did'." Liberatore told SEN yesterday. "
? ??? :headscratch
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23381903-19742,00.html
Or were you honest here when you said ""If they say to me, 'Do you think Carlton tanked?', I would say, 'I don't think they did'." Liberatore told SEN yesterday. "
? ??? :headscratch
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23381903-19742,00.html
Legends of 1980 said:
That's just shocking, appears as though the AFL's got at him. Far easier to tackle Libba than Carlton or the draft system.
Libba didn't realise that he needs verifiable proof when he makes allegations like he did.Legends of 1980 said:
Carlscum and the AFL will no doubt have given him a heads up and advised some serious back pedalling was required.
Little Libba has pointed his arse skyward and no doubt received the obligatory punt up the date.
DirtyDogTiger said:
Weel, what i mean (am hoping) by that is that, already there has been a heap of media focus on the scum this pre season. I dont think this is something that will blow over throughout the week. THis means the focus is squarely on the scum. It gives richmond the chance to fly under the radar and pinch the four points. just my opinion ;-)