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tigerdell

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Can we expect another knee jerk reaction from the AFL?
Not today, but by Monday yes.
Thats the benefit of this footy fiesta, we can have a revised rule interpretation and a then a revamped rule and then a reviewed set of rules all in the same week.
It might be the same round but i have nfi what round it is
 
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eZyT

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watched the replay frame by frame.I thought the deliberate was there, the downfield maybe there? no real issue with either.

but the big error imo was where they paid the downfield. probably 20m closer to goal than it should have been? seemed to pay it from where the ball came to rest on the fence, rather than where it went OOB?

I dunno the rule on where downfield actually is?

anyway, a good result for us. keeps Carlton in the hunt and hungry with pies, giants and lion to come.

Carlton have some say on the makeup of the 8
 

LeeToRainesToRoach

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but the big error imo was where they paid the downfield. probably 20m closer to goal than it should have been? seemed to pay it from where the ball came to rest on the fence, rather than where it went OOB?

Should be where the ball crosses the line. Hard to judge from the camera angle in Perth, there are always a few that look out where the boundary ump calls play on.
 
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Disco

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watched the replay frame by frame.I thought the deliberate was there, the downfield maybe there? no real issue with either.

but the big error imo was where they paid the downfield. probably 20m closer to goal than it should have been? seemed to pay it from where the ball came to rest on the fence, rather than where it went OOB?

I dunno the rule on where downfield actually is?

anyway, a good result for us. keeps Carlton in the hunt and hungry with pies, giants and lion to come.

Carlton have some say on the makeup of the 8
Yeah good point re: who they have to play.
 

bigwow

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watched the replay frame by frame.I thought the deliberate was there, the downfield maybe there? no real issue with either.

but the big error imo was where they paid the downfield. probably 20m closer to goal than it should have been? seemed to pay it from where the ball came to rest on the fence, rather than where it went OOB?

I dunno the rule on where downfield actually is?

anyway, a good result for us. keeps Carlton in the hunt and hungry with pies, giants and lion to come.

Carlton have some say on the makeup of the 8
The wrong bloke definitely took the kick, the ball went over Gibbon's head, just inside 50, somehow, after they'd decided it was a Carlton free, Newnes kicks from about 30.
Can Freo appeal?
 
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jb03

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Should be where the ball crosses the line. Hard to judge from the camera angle in Perth, there are always a few that look out where the boundary ump calls play on.
The give away is where Gibbons was standing on the mark when they thought it was Freos free. Went from Gibbons at 50 to Newnes at 40. And Taberner should never have let Dockerty play on.
 
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St Kevin

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Should be where the ball crosses the line. Hard to judge from the camera angle in Perth, there are always a few that look out where the boundary ump calls play on.

Yep. Clear umpiring error.

All of my Carlton mates who are professional umpire whingers are mysteriously quiet after last night.
 
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Althom

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watched the replay frame by frame.I thought the deliberate was there, the downfield maybe there? no real issue with either.

but the big error imo was where they paid the downfield. probably 20m closer to goal than it should have been? seemed to pay it from where the ball came to rest on the fence, rather than where it went OOB?

I dunno the rule on where downfield actually is?

anyway, a good result for us. keeps Carlton in the hunt and hungry with pies, giants and lion to come.

Carlton have some say on the makeup of the 8
Just plain dumb play by Fremantle.
 

Mr Brightside

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Agree. Was a very short sighted decision. And Betts looked finished last year.
I think it was an awesome decision, I believe the Blues have sent a himalyan search party out to find Bruce Doull in his secret humpy, just for a coffee at this point
 
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tigertim

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Geez really?
I stand corrected, it was his agent but the article says the Blues will back him in for 2021. And it wasn’t a month ago but 9 days ago!

‘INVIGORATED’ BETTS WANTS TO GO AGAIN
Eddie Betts is determined to play on into a 17th season in his return to Carlton with all indications the Blues will back him in for 2021.

Betts’ manager Garry Winter told the Herald Sun that Betts was invigorated by his return to Carlton after a strong season that has mixed spectacular moments with some quieter games.

Betts helped Carlton win its first game at GMHBA Stadium since 1996 with a magical last minute that included a game-sealing tackle on Jack Henry, and kicked four goals against the Western Bulldogs.

He returned to the club where he played the first nine seasons of his career on a one-year deal that Adelaide has also helped top up financially.

Winter said a player who will turn 34 in November was determined to play on given his enjoyment in a season where quick turnarounds have hampered recoveries.

Carlton veteran Eddie Betts is keen to play on. Picture: Michael Klein
Carlton veteran Eddie Betts is keen to play on. Picture: Michael Klein
“He was keen to sign a two-year deal but Carlton said they had a policy where players over 30 sign one-year deals and they wouldn’t breach that,” he said.

“The intention is that he will play on and it still feels like he is adding value on the field but he doesn’t want to force anyone to keep him on the books.

“At this stage it’s been a disrupted season and it’s hard for players to get a crack at it, but he’s won a couple of games off his own boot and while he’s had a few quiet games, he has a high standard and with his seniority and the help he is providing to young guys the feedback we are getting from Carlton is they are ecstatic.
 
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watched the replay frame by frame.I thought the deliberate was there, the downfield maybe there? no real issue with either.

I too watched it several times and thought the call was horrendous for the downfield free. Clearly the blues player milks it. Can you imagine if this happened to Richmond an oppo player flopping like that?. Furthermore, the kick should've gone to Gibbons. Umps getting worse for lapses of concentration in games, missing obvious free kicks right in front of them.
 
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eZyT

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I too watched it several times and thought the call was horrendous for the downfield free. Clearly the blues player milks it. Can you imagine if this happened to Richmond an oppo player flopping like that?. Furthermore, the kick should've gone to Gibbons. Umps getting worse for lapses of concentration in games, missing obvious free kicks right in front of them.

I can see both sides.

when im not sure, I imagine the misdemeanour in question was against Richmond.

It was front on contact, after he'd kicked it.

certainly a subjective call as to wether it was late or not,

But if it was a tigers player, id be out of my seat screaming 'downfield'.

But agree 100% umpiring this year has been consistently horrible
 
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anyway, a good result for us. keeps Carlton in the hunt and hungry with pies, giants and lion to come.
Carlton have some say on the makeup of the 8

Yeah, agree, as much they got win they will be hungry and likely to knock off 1 or 2 from those 3 you mentioned which of course is good for us.
 
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Sintiger

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I only watched it on and off and saw the highlights but it seemed to me that in a game that only produced 10 goals the umpires had a enormous say in a number of them.
The last 30 seconds was comedy capers, stuff ups all around. Not sure the deliberate was there, not sure the down the field was there and the kick was taken by the wrong player 20 metres from where is should have been.
Umpires were terrible, Freo was awful in that 30 seconds and Carlton were incredibly lucky in the end but 2 of Freo's 3 goals in the 1st quarter were the softest frees you will ever see so maybe it was kharma
 
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MD Jazz

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but the big error imo was where they paid the downfield. probably 20m closer to goal than it should have been? seemed to pay it from where the ball came to rest on the fence, rather than where it went OOB?

They never ever pay OOTF in the right spot unless the boundary umpire is under the ball when it goes out. They generally play it where the ball ends up, often 10-15m from where it crosses the line. Commentators never notice it.
 
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