Maurice Rioli Jnr | PUNT ROAD END | Richmond Tigers Forum
  • IMPORTANT // Please look after your loved ones, yourself and be kind to others. If you are feeling that the world is too hard to handle there is always help - I implore you not to hesitate in contacting one of these wonderful organisations Lifeline and Beyond Blue ... and I'm sure reaching out to our PRE community we will find a way to help. T.

Maurice Rioli Jnr

fastin bulbous

I Dig Syd
Mar 30, 2010
3,492
2,912
Darwin
I don't think so.

He's not playing because of injuries. We went in to the game last night with only Dusty and Grimes unavailable. We will always have at least two of our 22 unavailable, which means he's effectively best 22.

And he didn't come in as a key back or mid.
He's in because he's the best pressure forward at Richmond. He's in because we are a substationally better side with him in.
He's the anti Aarts.

We drop him for two weeks to retool, and we are dropping him for the summer, because we won't make finals.
You had me at antiaarts
 

BillyJean17

Tiger Champion
Jul 27, 2009
3,258
1,047
melbourne
Going ok junior , tends to always have an almost moment , brilliant chase down , almost kicked a goal, brilliant transition to junior one out , prob needed to tap the ball out and use his pace , got a cruel bounce and bungled it , simply needs to Continue improving , hasn’t made it yet ,,, nail his chances , they are precious stop missing from point blank range
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

DavidSSS

Tiger Legend
Dec 11, 2017
8,631
13,181
Melbourne
Yep, has a way to go, but already having an impact. Gee, seems to be the definition of a good young player to me.

Keeps his spot, contributes to the forward line, just needs to learn to create and take opportunities. These are his development goals and he is young so has time.

DS
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users

BillyJean17

Tiger Champion
Jul 27, 2009
3,258
1,047
melbourne
Yep, has a way to go, but already having an impact. Gee, seems to be the definition of a good young player to me.

Keeps his spot, contributes to the forward line, just needs to learn to create and take opportunities. These are his development goals and he is young so has time.

DS
Yep he has the qualities , needs to work with coaches and tune in , he’s already improved plenty so I expect that will continue
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users

Brodders17

Tiger Legend
Mar 21, 2008
14,924
6,300
We had a plan.

We want to cultivate "effectively a first year player" Maurice's ball winning, his ball use. So we dropped MoJu.

We had to rush him back to AFL level because injuries. And now can't even use him as a sub. Because injuries.

We're rushing this guy. He's not failing but he's not blooming.

We could not get the month of development for him at VFA level. And then there was the personal leave matter. He missed a week of development there.

MoJu got only one week as sub. Injuries, so rushed back to senior full time again tonight.

And now we have the same MoJu we had seven weeks ago when he was dropped.

With the great clubs (you may have heard of RFC) they need time to implement plans.

Two weeks in the reserves for mine. Let's see this through and unleash the remodelled MoJu in September.

Ball winning. Ball use. Clean.
The VFL have a bye this weekend, before the last game of the year. No time to "retool". He has to play this week, and then consider if need be the following.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

Brodders17

Tiger Legend
Mar 21, 2008
14,924
6,300
Without the ball he’s good. He’s quick and he chases hard.
With the ball he is almost. He almost does something great with the ball, then he doesn’t.

But he’s 19. A 2nd year player. He came from way behind, and I’m surprised he has come so far in so little time.

I think we should keep playing him for now. We have no one else who chases as hard and fast as he does.
You are so right about "almost". You can see what he is trying to do- break tackles, outrun opponents, use the ball with brillance.
He cant quite do any of that yet. When, and IF (big IF) he can he will enter the rare stratosphere only inhabited by Riolis. (Just below Shai Bolton, who sits in the mesosphere all on his own.)
 
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users

tigertim

something funny is written here
Mar 6, 2004
27,495
8,102
The VFL have a bye this weekend, before the last game of the year. No time to "retool". He has to play this week, and then consider if need be the following.
The vfl fixture is a mess. 4 byes this season in a 21 team comp.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users

tigertim

something funny is written here
Mar 6, 2004
27,495
8,102
Without the ball he’s good. He’s quick and he chases hard.
With the ball he is almost. He almost does something great with the ball, then he doesn’t.

But he’s 19. A 2nd year player. He came from way behind, and I’m surprised he has come so far in so little time.

I think we should keep playing him for now. We have no one else who chases as hard and fast as he does.
Yep. I think he’s such a fast twitch type of guy I feel like he’s brain and his body aren’t always in synch. It looks like he’s thinking “what am I gunna do when I get the ball, I’ll kick it, no, I’ll run with it, no, I’ll handball.”. I reckon once he gets that right he,ll blossom.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

Little Ziggyadee

Tiger Champion
Dec 30, 2021
4,788
5,797
46
Just signed a 9 yr deal.
Love this kid
Chase down tackles are the best.
The Bow & Arrow copped it and I laughed and I laughed and I laughed
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: 1 users

Brodders17

Tiger Legend
Mar 21, 2008
14,924
6,300
The vfl fixture is a mess. 4 byes this season in a 21 team comp.
And about 4 teams are hopeless, so in a 22rd season, they are probably only playing 13 or 14 games against decent opposition, makes it hard to judge form, and for kids to get ready for AFL football.

A different thread topic, but the AFL has killed the old VFA teams- maybe they would have been in trouble anyway, but forcing them into unions with AFL clubs, then letting the AFL clubs leave has left the likes of Coburg, Willy and Preston ruined.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 users

DavidSSS

Tiger Legend
Dec 11, 2017
8,631
13,181
Melbourne
And about 4 teams are hopeless, so in a 22rd season, they are probably only playing 13 or 14 games against decent opposition, makes it hard to judge form, and for kids to get ready for AFL football.

A different thread topic, but the AFL has killed the old VFA teams- maybe they would have been in trouble anyway, but forcing them into unions with AFL clubs, then letting the AFL clubs leave has left the likes of Coburg, Willy and Preston ruined.

Agree, the AFL is terrible at supporting lower levels of the game and destroying some very old teams with very long histories is a travesty.

DS
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users

BillyJean17

Tiger Champion
Jul 27, 2009
3,258
1,047
melbourne
You are so right about "almost". You can see what he is trying to do- break tackles, outrun opponents, use the ball with brillance.
He cant quite do any of that yet. When, and IF (big IF) he can he will enter the rare stratosphere only inhabited by Riolis. (Just below Shai Bolton, who sits in the mesosphere all on his own.)
He needs to add a trick or two , a famed Rioli one by Cyril and dan is when running at a contested ball , tap it on and try and out. Run opponent, junior doesnt do that, he should , I credit him for improving out of sight from where he was when he arrived , prob needs to improve by that margin again ,,,dont think there’s much doubt he has the talent , needs to put it all together
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

TigerMasochist

Walks softly carries a big stick.
Jul 13, 2003
23,077
7,500
Interesting call - Id say it depends if it’s mental or just who he is. Can we think of anyone who fumbled as young player and then fixed it up?
Moju's reminding me a bit of Michael Mitchell, sometimes seems to be going so fast he can't keep up with himself. Reckon a season or two in the game n he'll learn the subtle art of slowing himself down by half a second n it'll make all the difference to his game.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

The Mole

Tiger Champion
Apr 1, 2003
2,532
1,701
He needs to add a trick or two , a famed Rioli one by Cyril and dan is when running at a contested ball , tap it on and try and out. Run opponent, junior doesnt do that, he should , I credit him for improving out of sight from where he was when he arrived , prob needs to improve by that margin again ,,,dont think there’s much doubt he has the talent , needs to put it all together
He is way ahead of where I thought he would be this year. His growth of his game from last year is exponential.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 7 users

checkside

Tiger Legend
Sep 23, 2005
6,932
500
Australia
He is way ahead of where I thought he would be this year. His growth of his game from last year is exponential.
This. From what he started as I couldn’t even see him playing a game at this stage.
From the outside looking in he seems like a very mature and settled 19 year old. Can only improve you would hope.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

UKTiger

Tiger Legend
Jul 11, 2010
7,563
4,889
Shipston on Stour, UK
At times MRJ is like a pet dog. Runs after the ball but either can't pick it up or doesn't know what to do with it when he does and then all of a sudden can catch the ball in the air and do wonders with it. It will come though, I have no doubt.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

Dyer'ere

Licensed to kazoo
Sep 21, 2004
18,267
4,519
With the ball he is almost. He almost does something great with the ball, then he doesn’t.
That's the thing that stands out, checkers. Ball handling not right despite flashes of brilliance. More time than he realises sometimes, less at others.

Almost. So close. It's tantalising. Looks like a confidence thing to me.

He was pretty good overall against Port. But if we can get his confidence right Young Maurice may level up for September.
 

Dyer'ere

Licensed to kazoo
Sep 21, 2004
18,267
4,519
I don't think so.

He's not playing because of injuries. We went in to the game last night with only Dusty and Grimes unavailable. We will always have at least two of our 22 unavailable, which means he's effectively best 22.

And he didn't come in as a key back or mid.
He's in because he's the best pressure forward at Richmond. He's in because we are a substationally better side with him in.
He's the anti Aarts.

We drop him for two weeks to retool, and we are dropping him for the summer, because we won't make finals.

My take was that MoJu was promoted on the back of Edwards missing, CT. But, as you say, maybe that's not right. My lament is that MoJu has missed the easy kills we had lined up for him. And the confidence and experience boost.

A month ago sent him to the Magoos to work on "creativity with the ball". He got one game against North and was very, very quiet for the first half. Probably on the back of his foregoing personal leave entitlements that week IMO. All fair enough. But he didn't get the development into him.

Nankervis played against Norfs having been scanned for PCL damage and electing to play. He was unmercifully flogged. Because IMO he was injured but playing. Lynch injured.

The next week against Freo we had to play Nankervis because no Lynch (injured). We knew that he wouldn't jump all game. I assumed because PCL. So we played Nank forward and Soldo did all the jumping.

If Nankervis in peak form plays #1 forward the ball is going to come out real hard because he will play shallow too often and still won't catch it. If he's got wobbly knee it's going to come out harder. Big trouble looming in the Freo game.

Further to that the Levi's Dockers have a fleet of running backs that set them up for a lot of their hurt. The Freo game looks as wobbly as Nank's knee did that day.

In the stands I was praying that MoJU would be sub and nobody was surprised when Dimma rorted the rule and brought MoJu on. It wasn't quite enough to get us over the line but it helped.

MoJu missed a second straight week of "creativity with the ball" development. Planned development.

Used as sub again the next week against he got it three times. Missed development. But he did get it twelve times against Port and had many almost moments.

Maybe we think we can level him up anyway. He got close last week. We'll see.

On the question of who might come into the side, CT, I read that you went to the VFA on the weekend. Who do you reckon might be close? :D
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

wigglyworm

Tiger Matchwinner
Jan 22, 2008
700
516
My take was that MoJu was promoted on the back of Edwards missing, CT. But, as you say, maybe that's not right. My lament is that MoJu has missed the easy kills we had lined up for him. And the confidence and experience boost.

A month ago sent him to the Magoos to work on "creativity with the ball". He got one game against North and was very, very quiet for the first half. Probably on the back of his foregoing personal leave entitlements that week IMO. All fair enough. But he didn't get the development into him.

Nankervis played against Norfs having been scanned for PCL damage and electing to play. He was unmercifully flogged. Because IMO he was injured but playing. Lynch injured.

The next week against Freo we had to play Nankervis because no Lynch (injured). We knew that he wouldn't jump all game. I assumed because PCL. So we played Nank forward and Soldo did all the jumping.

If Nankervis in peak form plays #1 forward the ball is going to come out real hard because he will play shallow too often and still won't catch it. If he's got wobbly knee it's going to come out harder. Big trouble looming in the Freo game.

Further to that the Levi's Dockers have a fleet of running backs that set them up for a lot of their hurt. The Freo game looks as wobbly as Nank's knee did that day.

In the stands I was praying that MoJU would be sub and nobody was surprised when Dimma rorted the rule and brought MoJu on. It wasn't quite enough to get us over the line but it helped.

MoJu missed a second straight week of "creativity with the ball" development. Planned development.

Used as sub again the next week against he got it three times. Missed development. But he did get it twelve times against Port and had many almost moments.

Maybe we think we can level him up anyway. He got close last week. We'll see.

On the question of who might come into the side, CT, I read that you went to the VFA on the weekend. Who do you reckon might be close? :D
Edwards will probably just come in I reckon possibly as the sub
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users