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McGuane and Patto

I like Patto and McGuane but at the same time both have deficiencies which mean we should put them up for trade to see what we can get for them. Otherwise I'd keep them.
 
ROLLS ROYCE said:
I think there is an upside to Patto.
He seems to have a good engine and covers the ground well.
Why is he not a first option ruck as Simmonds does not want the role.
With a little confidence Patto could blossom. Has good hands and not a bad kick. I know he looks slow but is he REALLY or is it just his lanky frame that makes it look worse????

Did you watch last year at all??? Patto tries hard, Patto has a good engine, Patto is aggressive - I've had a gutfull of these statements - guess what - Patto is not good enough. First option ruck? Because of his limitations he wouldn't be on any other AFL teams list but we like to keep players with obvious deficiencies down at Richmond.
 
IanG said:
I like Patto and McGuane but at the same time both have deficiencies which mean we should put them up for trade to see what we can get for them. Otherwise I'd keep them.

No club would trade for them Ian. None. & for youngish players that should tell you something.
 
Leysy Days said:
No club would trade for them Ian. None. & for youngish players that should tell you something.

I think they would have some trade value, as teams see younger players as having potential, and supporters will not be as angry if a pick is traded for a younger player
Also (unfortunately for us) I think that other teams look at our players as having more potential when moved to another club

I would be looking at a trade for McGuane (if it can be found)
If he is good enough to be kept till GC (bout 3 years is it?) then we probably won't wanna trade him, otherwise by that time he will not have any value at all
 
tigers#7 said:
McGuane played on Tippett when forward and when Tippett went into the ruck, McGuane took McGregor.

And beat them both.

Agree - Patto has to go.
 
Big Cat Lover said:
Did you watch last year at all??? Patto tries hard, Patto has a good engine, Patto is aggressive - I've had a gutfull of these statements - guess what - Patto is not good enough. First option ruck? Because of his limitations he wouldn't be on any other AFL teams list but we like to keep players with obvious deficiencies down at Richmond.

Same has been said of Schulz but you seem happy to persevere with him BC. IWhy does 100 chances Schulz have more upside that Patto???
 
ROLLS ROYCE said:
Same has been said of Schulz but you seem happy to persevere with him BC. IWhy does 100 chances Schulz have more upside that Patto???

They are two players of opposite extremes. Schulz is a classy player who has committment problems (in my view). Patto is an average skilled player with alot of courage and fight. If you could combine the assets of these two you'd have a fantastic player. Instead you have two separate players who are, or may find it hard to cement a place in the side in the future. My question with Patto is why, if he was recruited to be a forward (and its generally acknowledged he's too short for the ruck) only managed 12 goals in 45 games? The plan to have him as a key position forward has obviously not happened because he is neither super quick (and when I say quick that means in decision-making and know how to lead for a ball) nor a good mark (or an immensely long kick for goal). On this basis what is his position, a roving tall? If so why not just get a smaller player with skill and poise to play that role. It's hard for me to understand how Patto fits into the future. The only thing he has going for him at this stage is age.
 
GoodOne said:
They are two players of opposite extremes. Schulz is a classy player who has committment problems (in my view). Patto is an average skilled player with alot of courage and fight. If you could combine the assets of these two you'd have a fantastic player. Instead you have two separate players who are, or may find it hard to cement a place in the side in the future. My question with Patto is why, if he was recruited to be a forward (and its generally acknowledged he's too short for the ruck) only managed 12 goals in 45 games? The plan to have him as a key position forward has obviously not happened because he is neither super quick (and when I say quick that means in decision-making and know how to lead for a ball) nor a good mark (or an immensely long kick for goal). On this basis what is his position, a roving tall? If so why not just get a smaller player with skill and poise to play that role. It's hard for me to understand how Patto fits into the future. The only thing he has going for him at this stage is age.
Well described. The bottom line with Pattison is that he's just not good enough - more the pitty given how hard he tries.
 
IanG said:
I like Patto and McGuane but at the same time both have deficiencies which mean we should put them up for trade to see what we can get for them. Otherwise I'd keep them.
Both are good honest battlers,not worth alot on the trade table.
 
agree mcguane otupto it but patto was good again today and ven won some tap outs and went forward at stages. Not a bad backup and maybe will step up given time.
We have many worse on our list to worry about before we get to patto
 
Been worried about Patto, but liked what I saw today. Swatted Jeff White to the ground a couple of times and vastly improved his efforts at hitouts.
 
We can comfortably chop seven or more players at the end of the year before these two names come up.

Just on Patto's rucking I reckon his form has been poor to very poor for weeks. So there's a vacancy sign on his position for some time now. But the lack of applicants is the reason we need more rucks not fewer.
 
I think McGuane is our best tackler, he wraps them up around the middle and puts his whole body into it, it's probably because he's from Qld.
 
PurpleSneakers said:
I think McGuane is our best tackler, he wraps them up around the middle and puts his whole body into it, it's probably because he's from Qld.

Maybe he should consider rugby once he leaves the Tiges.
 
Funny you should say that, always thought Chris Hyde was playing the wrong code with his side-step and zig zag running he would have been more effective playing one of the rugbys, in reality though they would both be smashed to smithereens.