Deledio Martin Grigg Cotchin Edwards Houli Connors Morton Tuck Nason Jackson Foley Conca White Hicks Contin Weberley Helbig good mix there of speed inside & outside players.
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This are of the club has come a huge way in 12 months, for those who can’t remember Thompson was in our starting midfield round 1 this year.
The additional of Grigg, Foley, Chimp and Morton to the round 1 2011 rotation makes a huge amount of difference.
The additional of Grigg, Foley, Chimp and Morton to the round 1 2011 rotation makes a huge amount of difference.
Maybe you should refer to running player depth and include the skipper ? His run and quality delivery from the backline is hugely important for us .Inspector said:
yeah definitely I think Chris will step up again this season what are your thoughts on Tuck playing more time deep forward he is a strong body who takes a good mark & is a good set shot for goal you wouldn't play him as a defensive forward he doesn't have the pace. With Grigg coming on board & Martin having another year they will take his spot in the middle.
I'm glad we kept Tuck.
He is not flash, but he is a workhorse and gives us good cover for our young guys.
I do think he could play forward as well. He is as you describe IMO, a decent mark and a good set-shot for goal. But definately lacks a defensive side to his game.
He is not flash, but he is a workhorse and gives us good cover for our young guys.
I do think he could play forward as well. He is as you describe IMO, a decent mark and a good set-shot for goal. But definately lacks a defensive side to his game.
The thing about Tucky is that he does the hard yakka as the in and under player . He is valuable in that role but when we rely on him to be more than that we know we lack depth as has been the case in the past .
I don't mind him drifting forward as he is a decent mark and genuinly reliable kick for goal.
There is genuine pressure on that spot next season . I am not sure we can have Tuck , Jackson and Grigg all in the same side.
I don't mind him drifting forward as he is a decent mark and genuinly reliable kick for goal.
There is genuine pressure on that spot next season . I am not sure we can have Tuck , Jackson and Grigg all in the same side.
We are just about right now in our midfield stocks. It's the forward and backs that need settled. Especially our spine and small specialist roles forward and back. Other than Jack no one has definitively claimed a position on our spine yet and more importantly we need to get this settled now reasonable quickly so they are not too far behind our midfield in development with regard to team structures and the like.
We have plenty of irons in the fire but now we need to start seriously combing through the Post's, Rances and Gourdis's and the like while ensuring Griffiths, Astbury and Co develop along nicely. I for one can't wait to the day where we have a more consistent spine, modern footy being what it is we all know true set positions are a thing of the past but for the most part you still need some serious consistency or you just get players turning into Jay Schulz.
We have plenty of irons in the fire but now we need to start seriously combing through the Post's, Rances and Gourdis's and the like while ensuring Griffiths, Astbury and Co develop along nicely. I for one can't wait to the day where we have a more consistent spine, modern footy being what it is we all know true set positions are a thing of the past but for the most part you still need some serious consistency or you just get players turning into Jay Schulz.
Tango said:
I think he's still important for the side, he works hard and is strong in contests, but as the team improves and get to the stage of challenging for a premiership he may be forced out.
Similar to players at Collingwood such as Shane O'Brie, he had his deficiencies as a player but contributed each week untill this year when he was surpassed as the team got to the premiership level.
Í agree with all that and would add a quality midsize forward and small crumbing forward who can kick goals . Hopefully we have those on our list as well .Dyer Disciple said:
Quality of depth is what matters.
Foley will obviously make a big difference if he can get back to his best.
Preferably Morton should go back to be considered a wiley forward in the Brown mode who can pinch hit in the midfield.
We will know our midfield depth has come of age when none of Tuck, Jacko and White can get a game. (No offence to them specifically, they have been honest toilers).
Foley will obviously make a big difference if he can get back to his best.
Preferably Morton should go back to be considered a wiley forward in the Brown mode who can pinch hit in the midfield.
We will know our midfield depth has come of age when none of Tuck, Jacko and White can get a game. (No offence to them specifically, they have been honest toilers).
evo said:
Actually I have been one of his harshest critics pretty consistently evo. I guess it is because I believe he has the ability to be a pretty good player, but do to the many deficiences (sp?) he has had so far in his career, we may never see that player. In other words my frustration with him is that I personally don't believe he will ever reach his true potential. Having said that, I would love to be really wrong with what I have said above.
Yeah *smile* knows what was going on there. He's always had obvious ability and kudos to Beavis for making the most of it. Give me O'Keefe/Chapman over Motlop any day.
Keep in mind the boy's only 22 dog. His inconsistencies will iron themselves out as he matures I reckon. He played some cracking games after a relatively slow start and I reckon we should be confident he can maintain that, especially if we manage to consistently put quality around him.
Tigerdog said:
Keep in mind the boy's only 22 dog. His inconsistencies will iron themselves out as he matures I reckon. He played some cracking games after a relatively slow start and I reckon we should be confident he can maintain that, especially if we manage to consistently put quality around him.
Disco08 said:
Yeah he is obviously a late maturer.
He also played some shockers, especially toward the end of the year.
These are the concerns I have had/do have with Connors (He has addressed a couple of them already, seemingly-time will tell):
*Application/Dedication
*Attitude
*Character
*Level of fitness
*Concentration
*Skill level (Looks a beautiful kick on face value but butchers it way more than he should)
*Defensive efforts
*Selfishness (ie. Putting self before team in games)
*Accountability (Not convinced at all about his ability to keep his opponent quiet)
It probably sounds like I have something against the bloke and don't want him to succeed, when in actual fact I would love him to become the player he has the potential to be. I just won't believe it until it has actually happened and been consistently displayed over 2 seasons.
Tigerdog said:
This is a fair criticism. I watched him monster the Swans early July bu killing them at HBF, but gee he turned it over a bit.
If he could sort that out he'd be a much more effective player. On what I saw, he reads the play and has no trouble getting the pill.
