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Most important ingredient in Premiership cake

Mr Brightside

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This has been discussed an argued many times and will continue to be for years,but I decided to have a look at the last 10 premierships sides an see if there was any mention of the 11 secret herbs an spices.

*Full back-Martyn,Fletcher,Micheal,Wakelin,Barry,Glass have all been premiership full backs an the one thing I found in general with them is they are mainly stoppers an not big posesion getters

*CHB-Caven,McCartney(didnt play GF)Wellman,Leppitch,Cornes,LRT,Hunter-Just about all very attacking players angenrally good accurate long kicks

*Taggers or run withs -each club has had a quality run with player who can in turn get the footy themselves-Johnson,Stevens,Hart,Scott,Carr,Kirk,Stenglein.

*CHF-Robran,Carey,Lucas,Brown,Tredrea,Hall,Hansen-genrally a player of real class must play here but the main ingredient I would say is works very hard up an down the ground an very good pass of the footy.

*FF-Jarman,Mckernan,Lloyd,Lynch,Lade,OLaughlin,Q Lynch-All very different types

*Forward an Back set ups seem to be genearlly of 3 or 4 talls an at least 2 players who can play tall or small back or forward,no club has 2 smalls on the same line.

*Midfield-Other then Brisbane an West Coast no other team seem to have brilliant midfields but it seems if you do have one your going to give it a big shake.

In conclusion I still have no idea if you have a great team its a great team ;D
 
The most important ingredient in the Premiership cake is depth.

With depth a team can do all of the following:

cover injuries

cover individual loss of form without a drop in team performance

take their time bringing long term injured players back so they can play the last part of the season injury-free when others are tiring

choose players for specific roles

keep the team fresh by introducing new faces all the time

keep the players on their toes. One poor game could mean missing finals

respond to other teams strengths by introducing different players, again without loss of team performance.

Look at those who missed out instead of those who played.
 
CC - I reckon the main secret is in the center - a good ruckman who cannot only tap the ball but also take those much needed grabs around the ground and a mid-field that gets its hands on the ball first and delivers it well to a drilled forward line.

The rest of the team has to run run run and support support support.

Maybe thats too simple - but I always remember what my first seniors coach said - "football is a game of keepings off you get the ball first and they cannot score!"
 
CC TIGER said:
This has been discussed an argued many times and will continue to be for years,but I decided to have a look at the last 10 premierships sides an see if there was any mention of the 11 secret herbs an spices.

*Full back-Martyn,Fletcher,Micheal,Wakelin,Barry,Glass have all been premiership full backs an the one thing I found in general with them is they are mainly stoppers an not big posesion getters

*CHB-Caven,McCartney(didnt play GF)Wellman,Leppitch,Cornes,LRT,Hunter-Just about all very attacking players angenrally good accurate long kicks

*Taggers or run withs -each club has had a quality run with player who can in turn get the footy themselves-Johnson,Stevens,Hart,Scott,Carr,Kirk,Stenglein.

*CHF-Robran,Carey,Lucas,Brown,Tredrea,Hall,Hansen-genrally a player of real class must play here but the main ingredient I would say is works very hard up an down the ground an very good pass of the footy.

*FF-Jarman,Mckernan,Lloyd,Lynch,Lade,OLaughlin,Q Lynch-All very different types

*Forward an Back set ups seem to be genearlly of 3 or 4 talls an at least 2 players who can play tall or small back or forward,no club has 2 smalls on the same line.

*Midfield-Other then Brisbane an West Coast no other team seem to have brilliant midfields but it seems if you do have one your going to give it a big shake.

In conclusion I still have no idea if you have a great team its a great team ;D
sheesh ive been saying exactly that for yrs and getting abused for it.
 
the must important position is Centre Half Forward. Richmond hasnt had a quality CHF for 25 years.

All the premiership teams boast a good chf.
 
the claw said:
CC TIGER said:
This has been discussed an argued many times and will continue to be for years,but I decided to have a look at the last 10 premierships sides an see if there was any mention of the 11 secret herbs an spices.

*Full back-Martyn,Fletcher,Micheal,Wakelin,Barry,Glass have all been premiership full backs an the one thing I found in general with them is they are mainly stoppers an not big posesion getters

*CHB-Caven,McCartney(didnt play GF)Wellman,Leppitch,Cornes,LRT,Hunter-Just about all very attacking players angenrally good accurate long kicks

*Taggers or run withs -each club has had a quality run with player who can in turn get the footy themselves-Johnson,Stevens,Hart,Scott,Carr,Kirk,Stenglein.

*CHF-Robran,Carey,Lucas,Brown,Tredrea,Hall,Hansen-genrally a player of real class must play here but the main ingredient I would say is works very hard up an down the ground an very good pass of the footy.

*FF-Jarman,Mckernan,Lloyd,Lynch,Lade,OLaughlin,Q Lynch-All very different types

*Forward an Back set ups seem to be genearlly of 3 or 4 talls an at least 2 players who can play tall or small back or forward,no club has 2 smalls on the same line.

*Midfield-Other then Brisbane an West Coast no other team seem to have brilliant midfields but it seems if you do have one your going to give it a big shake.

In conclusion I still have no idea if you have a great team its a great team ;D
sheesh ive been saying exactly that for yrs and getting abused for it.

Just a thought Claw but it might be the way you say it perhaps?
 
CC TIGER said:
This has been discussed an argued many times and will continue to be for years,but I decided to have a look at the last 10 premierships sides an see if there was any mention of the 11 secret herbs an spices.

*Full back-Martyn,Fletcher,Micheal,Wakelin,Barry,Glass have all been premiership full backs an the one thing I found in general with them is they are mainly stoppers an not big posesion getters

Not sure that you could class Barry as not a big possession winner
 
jb03 said:
CC TIGER said:
This has been discussed an argued many times and will continue to be for years,but I decided to have a look at the last 10 premierships sides an see if there was any mention of the 11 secret herbs an spices.

*Full back-Martyn,Fletcher,Micheal,Wakelin,Barry,Glass have all been premiership full backs an the one thing I found in general with them is they are mainly stoppers an not big posesion getters

Not sure that you could class Barry as not a big possession winner
Thats why I said ,in general an mainly ,I wouldnt call LRT a good long acutate kick either, just tryin to find common accurences
 
CC TIGER said:
jb03 said:
CC TIGER said:
This has been discussed an argued many times and will continue to be for years,but I decided to have a look at the last 10 premierships sides an see if there was any mention of the 11 secret herbs an spices.

*Full back-Martyn,Fletcher,Micheal,Wakelin,Barry,Glass have all been premiership full backs an the one thing I found in general with them is they are mainly stoppers an not big posesion getters

Not sure that you could class Barry as not a big possession winner
Thats why I said ,in general an mainly ,I wouldnt call LRT a good long acutate kick either, just tryin to find common accurences
imo sydney are the exception out of most premiership sides in the modern era. i have no doubt sydney would have won more than 1 flag if they had another genuine kpf and kpd. although roosey has been taking steps to fix this problem in recent drafts.

they had 4 picks this draft just gone and 3 were talls.throw everitt in and thats 4. imo trading early picks for everitt this draft will hurt them big time long term.the yr before they traded drafted 5 talls to their list. they have a very good prospect in dempster to take over a kpd role.and im sure spida will be up forward a lot to help out barry hall.
 
Tough thing when your so close to a flag do you give up everything to try an win it next season or do you keep your picks so you garuntee being competetive for another 5 years.
Question is, not that it happened that way but would you give up the 80 flag to play finals the whole 80s with out a flag
 
Harro12 said:
the claw said:
CC TIGER said:
This has been discussed an argued many times and will continue to be for years,but I decided to have a look at the last 10 premierships sides an see if there was any mention of the 11 secret herbs an spices.

*Full back-Martyn,Fletcher,Micheal,Wakelin,Barry,Glass have all been premiership full backs an the one thing I found in general with them is they are mainly stoppers an not big posesion getters

*CHB-Caven,McCartney(didnt play GF)Wellman,Leppitch,Cornes,LRT,Hunter-Just about all very attacking players angenrally good accurate long kicks

*Taggers or run withs -each club has had a quality run with player who can in turn get the footy themselves-Johnson,Stevens,Hart,Scott,Carr,Kirk,Stenglein.

*CHF-Robran,Carey,Lucas,Brown,Tredrea,Hall,Hansen-genrally a player of real class must play here but the main ingredient I would say is works very hard up an down the ground an very good pass of the footy.

*FF-Jarman,Mckernan,Lloyd,Lynch,Lade,OLaughlin,Q Lynch-All very different types

*Forward an Back set ups seem to be genearlly of 3 or 4 talls an at least 2 players who can play tall or small back or forward,no club has 2 smalls on the same line.

*Midfield-Other then Brisbane an West Coast no other team seem to have brilliant midfields but it seems if you do have one your going to give it a big shake.

In conclusion I still have no idea if you have a great team its a great team ;D
sheesh ive been saying exactly that for yrs and getting abused for it.

Just a thought Claw but it might be the way you say it perhaps?

:hihi claw says some good things you just have to ignore the tone and the constant negativity. There are days I cannot read a claw post so I don't. Other days I feel a bit more bullet proof so I can pick out the good bits. claw has helped me shape my views on the way we are building our list, not always the way he would like though :hihi . He helps me stay on the straight and narrow when the brightsider in me gets a bit carried away.
 
CC TIGER said:
Tough thing when your so close to a flag do you give up everything to try an win it next season or do you keep your picks so you garuntee being competetive for another 5 years.
Question is, not that it happened that way but would you give up the 80 flag to play finals the whole 80s with out a flag
no the whole point of the exercise is to win premierships. you build a list capable of playing finals footy for 5 yrs and hopefully during that window you can win one or 2. the real trick is recognising when you are going into decline and turning players over so you dont stay out of finals for to long. and the kids you bring thru have plenty of experience around them. i suppose its called list management.