My letter to Terry Wallace

[Azza]

The fact is nobody else has posted a letter they'd sent to the RFC abusing someone personally and that is what I was commenting on.

Disingenuous Rosie. He was clearly just letting off steam. I guess a forum is no longer a place where you can do that huh?

 

[skiptomystu]

The letter made some good points, but the personal abuse makes it useless. Drawing on childish name calling would in no way impact or change Terry's mind.

 

[Rosy]

Disingenuous Rosie. He was clearly just letting off steam. I guess a forum is no longer a place where you can do that huh?

What's your problem?  Juffa is as welcome as anyone else to post his opinions.  How has he been prevented from doing that?  Isn't the forum absolutely chockers with that the last couple of days?  Thankfully juffa doesn't take my opinion some kind of moderator prosecution. 

It's interesting though, that you single me out when several others weren't in favour of Terry receiving that letter either.  My personal opinions are nothing to do with the moderating of this site and I'd appreciate you elaborating on your accusations of preferential treatment for a chosen few.

 

[Juffaricho]

Thankfully juffa doesn't take my opinion some kind of moderator prosecution.

Absolutely not ;D I would be dissapointed if as a Richmond Football Club supprter site moderator you didn't try to keep things above board and all nice and "rosy".. pardon the pun.

It's interesting though, that you single me out when several others weren't in favour of Terry receiving that letter either.

Are you implying that Terry actually may get that letter? Surely, you're joking. No offense, but if their "professional game analysis" includes any website forum postings then that would be the nail in the coffin for me.

 

[Rosy]

Absolutely not  ;D I would be dissapointed if as a Richmond Football Club supprter site moderator you didn't try to keep things above board and all nice and "rosy".. pardon the pun.

I don't think being a moderator came into my comments at all.  My post was no different to several others on here.

Are you implying that Terry actually may get that letter?  Surely, you're joking.  No offense, but if their "professional game analysis" includes any website forum postings then that would be the nail in the coffin for me.

Not implying but assuming.  I thought you were copying something you'd actually e-mailed to Terry.  My mistake seemingly.

 

[Juffaricho]

I don't think being a moderator came into my comments at all. My post was no different to several others on here.

Fair enough. Point made.

Not implying but assuming. I thought you were copying something you'd actually e-mailed to Terry.

Yeah, I tried emailing it to [email protected] but it bounced back
Only joking....

 

[Broadsword95]

Dear Juffa,

Your letter is just another ANONYMOUS and abusive rant from someone proporting to be a TIGER FAN.

I bet you don't have the guts, or decency to front Terry face to face and tell him your thoughts or even post the letter, with your membership number and signature on it. Once you prove that you are a TRUE TIGER, Terry may even be happy to sit down with you and explain the facts of life. He may even bring Jordan into the meeting so you get his autograph.

You know where you can find him.....its called PUNT ROAD....so there is no excuse for just raving on, on Rosy's magnificent forum.......have the guts to tell the club in person......or solve the problems of the world over a couple of beers at the pub....... not on a RICHMOND SUPPORTER's website.

While I am very disappointed in Thursday's night performance against a club that I hate, I saw the hurt and embarrassment in the players and coaches faces after the game.

Things will improve, but they won't improve if fools like you just keep abusing the guys that are out there week in and week out.

And a kind word of advice......go back to primary school and learn the Grammar and punctuation part of the English language.

cheers and GO YOU MIGHTY TIGERS,

Hypoxic.
(Name and membership number supplied to website owner)

Agree with you about Juffa's letter.

Disagree about his sentiment - which is spot on - and about your blase optimism that things will improve (in the long-term...don't care if we get to 10 wins this season)

Would advise you to look at your own puinctuation and grammar.

Poor thread.

 

[RemoteTiger]

What a sad thread - we the supporters are starting to argue and fight among ourselves - that is the last proof of a club in crisis.

But I don't think we are in crisis - we have the foundation to build a solid unit well into the future - there are a few who are not up to it and whilst I don't like singling out players McMahon comes to mind! But in truth I believe he is played out of position - for me he has the physique and goal smarts of that player I dislike from St Kilda Milne. I would try McMahon in a forward pocket as a forward rover and yes try Tambling off a Half Back flank.

I feel our coach is not so much trying to build a unit to play good solid football but he is trying to weave a new strategy that will take the whole AFL forward (like Hawthorn's Clarkson has done with the rolling zone). Either Wallace's new strategy is poor or our players don't have the skills to execute it - or both.

I digress - this thread and the supporters who are contributing to it (myself included) are proving the old adage "we eat our own" pretty accurate - as some supporters here have engaged in personal abuse and to pointing out the inadequate competence of others. Can we just settle it down and take a hard long look at what is needed rather than becoming emotional about it.

Remember greatness is founded during times of difficulty - it is not so much in winning a premiership that makes a club great it is how that club overcome adversity to achieve the premiership - we at Richmond are at one of those defining moments in our journey to a premiership......

 

[ToraToraTora]

I still don't quite get Internet Forum World. I can stand in a pub and anonymously rant and abuse to my hearts content and no one gives a stuff. I can go on prime time TV and say *smile* in context and no problem. (Did "The Essence of the Game" go to air uncut?) But a "letter" that's not really a letter intended for the person it's addressed to anyway,which includes some very very mild "abuse" is smackdowned ON Internet Forum World by users of Internet Forum World who should be used to that kind of stuff anyway. What is it about writing anyway?
Onya Juffa.

 

[Rosy]

I still don't quite get Internet Forum World. I can stand in a pub and anonymously rant and abuse to my hearts content and no one gives a stuff. I can go on prime time TV and say *smile* in context and no problem. (Did "The Essence of the Game" go to air uncut?) But a "letter" that's not really a letter intended for the person it's addressed to anyway,which includes some very very mild "abuse"  is smackdowned ON Internet Forum World by users of Internet Forum World who should be used to that kind of stuff anyway. What is it about writing anyway?
Onya Juffa.

It wasn't clear either way if the letter was sent to the person it was addressed to or not.  Juffa cleared that up later but plenty over the years have posted copies of letters they've actually sent to the club.

The rules for PRE were suggested and agreed upon by people using the forum when it started.  Who's to judge when *smile* is used in context or not.  Surely you can live without swearing, especially considering this is a family forum.  It would get very abusive and out of hand if swearing was allowed.  Somebody would always take it too far.

You can rant and abuse in a pub and people can also respond to what you say if they want to...same as on here.

 

[jannisarie]

I still don't quite get Internet Forum World. I can stand in a pub and anonymously rant and abuse to my hearts content and no one gives a stuff. I can go on prime time TV and say *smile* in context and no problem. (Did "The Essence of the Game" go to air uncut?) But a "letter" that's not really a letter intended for the person it's addressed to anyway,which includes some very very mild "abuse" is smackdowned ON Internet Forum World by users of Internet Forum World who should be used to that kind of stuff anyway. What is it about writing anyway?
Onya Juffa.

Congratulations..... You have just beaten the internet. It is the ultimate puzzle you take the same people who could be standing around you whilst at the pub and you are ignored because people shy away from confrontation IRL. You stick them on a forum from the comfort of home or the office and they are happy to take you to task on your posts.

Don't worry too much about it though mate. You will get used to it if you visit enough forums. The people here are actually very tame and friendly.

 

[Azza]

What's your problem? Juffa is as welcome as anyone else to post his opinions. How has he been prevented from doing that? Isn't the forum absolutely chockers with that the last couple of days? Thankfully juffa doesn't take my opinion some kind of moderator prosecution.

It's interesting though, that you single me out when several others weren't in favour of Terry receiving that letter either. My personal opinions are nothing to do with the moderating of this site and I'd appreciate you elaborating on your accusations of preferential treatment for a chosen few.

[there! baby spew clean-up!]

Rosie
Firstly, my reference to you was your comment about Juffa criticising the team prior to the game. He did.
Secondly, it made no mention about moderators.
Thridly, you're right, it was aimed at a number of responders. The point is that people who are long term posters get a certain latuitude when they have a rant that isn't provided to relative newcomers. They certainly don't get picked-on for grammar or using such a highly offensive terms as 'nob'? Understandable, but unfortunate.

It was pretty clear to me the letter was a rant and not meant to be sent. If you thought the letter was genuine and likely to go out, fair enough. As a mod you've obviously been exposed to more nutters than I have.

Anyway, Juffa's happy, so there's no point in carrying on with this.

 

[Hypoxic]

I can stand in a pub and anonymously rant and abuse to my hearts content and no one gives a stuff.

But the people you are talking to and drinking with in the pub know who you really are.

The people around your group don't but they soon find out....and usually don't give a damn.

 

[smasha]

meh. Don't worry about it.

Fact is you outlined what a lot of others are thinking

Fact is: you don't want to see your club get rolled over like that.

I think your issues deserved to be heard and deserved a bit clearer organisation, that's all.

If anything I think you went a bit kindly on the players.

I'm 40 years old and I must be about to see my my 15th club re-build 'Ok that didn't work ...but this one will!'

i'm over it

That's my feelings as well.

 

[meltiger]

a poster has been banned.

LOL

I know we're all dissapointed but geez guys, it's only one match. Let's see how Terry and the team respond this week.

 

[Tigerfan]

Juffa! This is your letter without the emotion and includes some punctuation.

(If Terry started reading this, he is more likely to finish it)

Dear Terry,

i would be misrepresenting the truth if I didn't state that I am angry at the clubs performance on Thursday night.

I believe that urgent structural and tactical changes are necessary if you aspire to coach at this club next year.

You need to put the players in the best positions that suit their abilities.

Tambling must play back and take McMahon's position. Remember Brisbane last year? Tambling can lead and mark a couple of times but he isn't a great rover. However, he is very disciplined so he will account for his opponent. Tambling has the pace to run off the back flank like a bullet, his skills are OK and despite being small he can tackle

McMahon doesn't have this opponent accountability or any physical presence. He might have pace and skils at training but then he doesn't have mental strength because the skils and pace go missing at game time. McMahon and also Bowden have less long term influence than players like Edwards and White

Rance should play at CHB next to Deledio and Tambling. Could you imagine the speed the ball would come out of defence with Rance, Tambling and Deliedio on the Half back line?

Adam Thompson should be tried as a defensive midfield option. His 1%'s have great NET VALUE to a team.

Nathan Brown should play in the forward line, not in the midfield. He is not a great tackler and will not run defensively.
Brown is awesome off the packs so please play him forward where he can cause damage. 15 possies from Nathan inside 50 as a designated rover will be 5 goals better to the overall team performance than 25 possies from him in the midfield.

Matthew Richardson should play CHF because he is the best one grab mark in the league, is unmatchable and requires two defenders (at least) to negate him.

When Cleve Hughes is available he should play out of the forwrd square.

Angus Graham should support Simmonds. Browne should develop his ruck-work at Coburg and if Graham didn't work out after 4 weeks, fine, bring back Browne.

Resist the temptation to drop Mitch and Riewoldt which you did last year, and try omitting the older players who have never had the required impact at this level.

Finally some players careers can actually be jeopardised if they are not developed in the right position. Some of your younger players must be wondering about your selection and structural decisions.

Good luck


Juffa.

your letter did well Juffa

Greame in for Browne

McMahon out and Rance in

Mitch and riewoldt still playing

Thompson's hurt and Hughes isn't in form

time will terry if Terry plays the others where you think they should play

 

[doherz]

In my defense I've spent the last few years keeping it civil and not personal but when I saw that team the other night that was selected I couldn't believe it. The guys is obviously off his head. And even if he changes his position now, it is too late. I believe this is a Top 6 squad, there are some hacks, but we have enough quality, sadly he is not picking half of them. We are wll away from the top 2 but not far off the Saints, Collingwood etc. He is single-handedly holding this squad back.

agreed. and now with a percentage of 44%, welcome to ninthmond again!

 

[Tenacious]

Dear Terry,
.......dumb. ... you twit.

Drivel.
But I hope you feel better now.