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New push in the back rule [Merged]
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Redford said:
My opinion hasn't changed. In the 1960s, 1970s and early 1980s, players were penalised if they scragged or pushed in a marking contest. Every time.
This notion that pushing in the back or chopping arms to stop an opponent marking is a recent phenomenon which has given less athletic or less skilled players the ability to compete.
I want to watch Richo or Tredrea take towering marks, not Archer wrestle them to the ground.
I'm with you so far TOT.TOT70 said:
If midfielders are going to be given time and space by corraling opponents to deliver the ball then forwards will have a picnic when the ball comes lace out.
If there is genuine midfield pressure then the ball coming forward will be put up to the hotspot enabling forwards and defenders to contest truly for the ball.
Old timers like Dench and Doull and Knights were brilliant in the backline without the scragging wrestling and chopping of guys like SOS.
We used to compete for the ball in footy, over the last twenty years it's been more a contest to take the opponent out of the game.
Now if only they would stop the taggers from turning their backs on the footy and attacking the ball players instead of the ball we might nearly get our game back.
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Bill James
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TOT70 said:
Agreed contact incidental to the marking contest meant you had to be contesting a mark, not spoiling, to make incidental contact. That was why Dench, Knights, Southby etc took so many marks and the fullforwards kicked 100 goals regularly. Bring it back I say.
TigerMasochist said:
Yep. I have never understood that one. Turn your back on the play and scrag your opponent before he gets the ball and he should have a free-end of story.
If anyone wants to see how footy should be played, go back and watch the 1974 Grand Final. Barry Richardson taking marks over Dench by using his hips and shoulders to protect the ball in flight, Bourke, Clay, McGhie flying over packs to punch the ball clear while barely laying a finger on any opponent, Bartlett crumbing the defensive punches, no end of players flying for a mark with a big, defensive fist between their ourstretched hands and everyone playing the ball. There are plenty of hits and shirtfronts but no scragging, wrestling or anything else out of the Silvagni handbook.
I personally think its the worst rule in 100+ years of the game, you get a slight touch in the back and its a free and an easy shot on goal then around the ground more so stoppages players tend to push or have hands firmly in the back to hold up their opponents and the ump gives no free...Work that out!
Not only the worst rule ever, but poor interpretation is not helping. By god as a backman if you don't play in front life is going to be tough.
The whole crux of the in the back rule is the word push. I never read nothing about put a hand on the back. Sure the likes of Lloyd expoited this with his magnificent Greg Laganus impersonations, but under this new rule he will kick 15 in a game with 14 being from free kicks.
If you are a forward you break on a fast lead, stop and prop, let the pursuing defender put a hand on your back and bingo free kick. Wonder if these same rules will apply to Richo who has never received to much from too many umpires.
Just unfathomable in modern football.
Just goes to show that those making the rules don't really understand the game.
The whole crux of the in the back rule is the word push. I never read nothing about put a hand on the back. Sure the likes of Lloyd expoited this with his magnificent Greg Laganus impersonations, but under this new rule he will kick 15 in a game with 14 being from free kicks.
If you are a forward you break on a fast lead, stop and prop, let the pursuing defender put a hand on your back and bingo free kick. Wonder if these same rules will apply to Richo who has never received to much from too many umpires.
Just unfathomable in modern football.
Just goes to show that those making the rules don't really understand the game.
gustiger12 said:
Hear Hear GT12, Richo has been dudded so many times over the years with hands in the back he will have a field day with this new rule come to think about it most power forwards will exploit this rule.
GF your right mate if backs don't play in front especially builds similar to gas they will be crucified by the umps for pushing and scragging....Gas has to reinvent himself and just play in front of his man id rather him be out pointed one on one in a marking duel than continually giving away freebies.
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Bill James
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gustiger12 said:
That was what everyone used to be taught as a 5yo. Play in front because it was an advantage. Being in front offered little advantage in the last decade. As much as Lloyd is annoying, he is a better full foward than Larry Donahue, Geoff Blethyn, even Doug Wade in my humble oppinion, but he struggles to kick the goals they did in a season and plays more games.
It is quite simple, if a class forward has a better than even chance of marking the ball in a contested situation because he isn't allowed to be scragged then coaches will kick to contests again and the flood will disappear because Lids will take a bounce and let a torp go to Richo one out in the square. The Flood won't be able to keep up.
Fantastic, I am drooling just thinking about it.
Sorry BJ, going to take me a while to come around on this contentious new rule, perhaps soon players will have on their backs big white squares with GA and so on.
AstuteTiger said:
Don't the Hawks already have that uniform.... oh they are not letters, but numbers...
