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Number 1 picks!

geoffryprettyboy said:
My mistake, we don't have many guns at the moment.
Probably a good thing Hollywood as it may look like the bikie wars down at Punt Road if our fans had the firepower.
AstuteTiger said:
Agree with all DD, vickery will be a gun, rucks dont dominate in the 1st year but i look at a players movement, agility, decision making, marking and kicking and this kid has got it as does jayden post both will be fine players for the RFC.

On Patto not much option in that 2004 draft around those pics DD, can u imagine oh please i dont want to imagine having picked up the biggest dud going around, cameron wood...i dont know but patto seems to have more spring in his legs, i first saw it in the praccy match at goschs padock where he took a big contested pack mark and yesterday seems to elevate himself more in the air, well ill reserve my judgement until we see in the seniors adam pattison mark 2.


Blingers gee its half back flank or the trade table at years end, 2004 pic 1 lids (gun) pic 4 franklin (gun)....oh just dreaming for a second with our pic 4....
Very astutue Wise One. I think Patto deserves a chance..he is much better value than gus.....JON has been hammered from pillar to post but by all accounts has kept his head down and focused on improving and his game last week shows that.....Bling should be our half back catalyst and a new coach will do just that.
 
Nathan Buckley made the comment yesterday that he didnt think the Richmond list was that bad, but that the team is structured up wrong. (talking of player deficiencies and where they are being used on the field)!
 
frickenel said:
Nathan Buckley made the comment yesterday that he didnt think the Richmond list was that bad, but that the team is structured up wrong. (talking of player deficiencies and where they are being used on the field)!

Did he give any more details?
 
ROLLS ROYCE said:
Probably a good thing Hollywood as it may look like the bikie wars down at Punt Road if our fans had the firepower.Very astutue Wise One. I think Patto deserves a chance..he is much better value than gus.....JON has been hammered from pillar to post but by all accounts has kept his head down and focused on improving and his game last week shows that.....Bling should be our half back catalyst and a new coach will do just that.
Gus got 12 hitouts playing with Simmonds on the weekend. Patto has only done that once in about 50 games. Personally I think Patto looks worse than really he is and does some clever things, but the reality is he is below average ruckman and probably a worse forward.
 
Just on Vickery / Gourdis playing on Coburg 2s.

Struck me as strange when I saw it.

I know the selection decisions were probably influenced by the VFL rules.

Just wondered who the key forwards in Coburg ones were.

To me, it may well be an argument for a separate Richmond Reserves.
 
IanG said:
Did he give any more details?

No sorry Ian, it was after the game and i was in transition from foot, to climbing into the car. Tony Shaw did mention earlier his belief that Jacob King because of his hardness and strength to weight ratio would be useful in the midfield, but that so deep in defense his skills can kill a team (and a coach i guess). I did have the impression when Buckley made the comment that he was referring not only to the way individuals are used, but how the game plan is structured as well (relative to team deficiencies)
 
If you substitute the Saints for Tigers , we would be bagging the Clarke's, in particular Xavier. At Roo land, Wells cops a bashing.

Most clubs do have them.

We seem better at developing rookies and late draft choices........Foley, Moore, McGuane, Thursfield etc.
 
Pezza said:
If you substitute the Saints for Tigers , we would be bagging the Clarke's, in particular Xavier. At Roo land, Wells cops a bashing.
Most clubs do have them.

Two more perfect examples of clubs using players in the wrong positions and persisting with it then whining about lost potential. :help

Then you look at clubs like Adelaide (McLeod), Port (P.Burgoyne), and West Coast (Wirrpanda)....and you don't hear their supporters moaning because they have coaches who realise that these players have skills that are best suited to a specific position, regardless of where they made a name for themselves in junior footy.

I think maybe coaches need to look (going to tread carefully here :-X ) at a players roots, how they played their junior footy growing up, what style of footy suited them early on, and then trying to use them in a position that suits them, instead of using the player to suit the team.

If, lets say, Aboriginal football up north is mainly skills based and not so much accountable hard-nut footy....then surely their players would be more adept at this style of footy....so if we then go ahead and draft an indigenous player from up north....then why not try and put them in a position that would allow them to enjoy and play their best footy and a position where the team can get the most out of their skills and attributes?
 
mtench said:
I think this is the main problem, none of our top draft picks have ever been developed properly!

If Tambling, Lids and afew others were playing at the hawks or carlton for eg they would probably be killing it right now. But no they are nowhere near where they should be potential wise!

Hell if we had have picked Franklin or Pavlich we would have reuined their careers!!

What the hell are we doing (or not) to these kids to make them so crap!!

Is it the culture down there? Do the senior group pass it on to the next batch of top draft picks we get!!!

Unfortunately you have hit the nail on the head. RFC is a place where promising young careers go to die. You cannot tell me that we have consistently for many years failed to draft the players that are capable of making it at AFL level. It is not like we have been exclusively drafting players that no one has ever heard of. The fact is, we have been drafting talented kids and in most cases (but not all) they have failed to live up to their promise.