If you want to re-hash Carltank history how about Balmey flattening Southby, Hall and Waite in the 73 GF. I certainly loved it but I'm sure the Stinking Tanker fans would have different adjectives for it. 
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The big fella was poetry in motion that day.Chiang Mai Tiger said:If you want to re-hash Carltank history how about Balmey flattening Southby, Hall and Waite in the 73 GF. I certainly loved it but I'm sure the Stinking Tanker fans would have different adjectives for it.
IanG said:
na i was refering to setanta.
maxwells report was fine by me, he had no intentions for the ball, he is very undisciplined and makes me wonder why he is captain if he doesnt lead by example and play in the right way. Michael Voss was tough, he didnt do stupid things, maxwell over-runs the ball and takes an unexpecting opponent out twice now.
The AFL's key policy these days is to protect the head of a player at all costs.
If you contact the head then expect suspension. I personally think that's a good move.
Of the face of it, the contact looks like a fair bump but it's obviously not when someone's jaw gets broken.
Hip and shoulder means hip to shoulder, not shoulder to head.
Don't really have an issue with the suspension to Maxwell.
If you contact the head then expect suspension. I personally think that's a good move.
Of the face of it, the contact looks like a fair bump but it's obviously not when someone's jaw gets broken.
Hip and shoulder means hip to shoulder, not shoulder to head.
Don't really have an issue with the suspension to Maxwell.
Just looked this up and it's quite interesting / funny!
A player by the name of Bert Franks (Sth Melb) was reported in 1907 for kicking and abusing an umpire. Verdict - not guilty!
Then in 1910 The same player was reported for kicking and assaulting an umpire. Verdict - Again not guilty.
But then in the next round, Bert Franks is reported for abusing an umpire and got 33 weeks!
One wonders how an umpire could get a report wrong when it involves himself, and how a player could get off on such a charge twice, only to get suspended for 33 weeks for mere abuse of an umpire!
A player by the name of Bert Franks (Sth Melb) was reported in 1907 for kicking and abusing an umpire. Verdict - not guilty!
Then in 1910 The same player was reported for kicking and assaulting an umpire. Verdict - Again not guilty.
But then in the next round, Bert Franks is reported for abusing an umpire and got 33 weeks!
One wonders how an umpire could get a report wrong when it involves himself, and how a player could get off on such a charge twice, only to get suspended for 33 weeks for mere abuse of an umpire!
THE (ALMOST) FULL HISTORY OF KICKING AT VFL / AFL LEVEL
I dont have the records from 1999 onwards, but here's a brief synopsis........
First kicking charge sustained was against Bill McGee (Sth Melb) who got 3 weeks. Our very own Bill Burns was next in 1909 and recived 46 weeks! Apparently he was a much better kick than McGee.
What is it with Irishmen in Carlton jumpers.........1914 - Patty O'Brien: Kicking - 13 weeks "I didna"!!!
CONSISTENCY...........
In 1925, Harold Johnson of Nth Melb was reprimanded for attempted kicking. His Team mate must have been quite releived about this as he then went in on the same charge "attempted kicking", however he came out with a 99 week suspension!! One wonders if he may have de-flowered the chairman's daughter at some point to deserve that!
Interestingly if you look at the record of this sort of charge, kicking was happening quite consistently, until the end of 1969.
From then until 1985, no kicking charge was sustained. However the charge against Jimmy Krakauor in 1985 opened the flood gates and kicking became fashionable again.
Bear in mind Syd Jackson was let off a kicking charge in 1972 that would have seen him miss the finals. Syd's defense was that he was racially abused. The opponent never forgave Syd for this allegation and swore black and blue (pardon the pun) that it was an absolute lie. In latter years, one of the Carlton officials at the time admitted the story was concocted to get Syd off the charge and allow him to play in the GF
1904 Bill McGee SM Kicking 3
1909 Bill Burns R Kicking 46
1914 Patty O'Brien Carl Kicking 13
1915 Joe Shortill Carl Kicking 3
1923 Ted H Thomas Melb Attempted Kicking 8
1924 George Clayden Coll Kicking 4
1925 Fred Ulbrick Foot Attempted Kicking 4
1925 Harold Johnson NM Attempted Kicking Reprimanded
1925 Fred Rutley NM Attempted Kicking 89
1927 Norm Cockran Fit Retaliating & Kicking 10
1928 Wally Warden Foot Kicking 22
1930 Jack Bevridge Coll Kicking 8
1931 Bill Muir Coll Attempted Kicking 8
1931 Tommy Downs Carl Kicking 29
1934 Jack Smith NM Attempted Kicking 6
1934 Keith Forbes Ess Attempted Kicking 4
1936 Charlie Longhurst Melb Kicking 8
1936 Ted Bryce Ess Kicking 18
1939 Gordon Waters Haw Attempted Kicking 6
1944 Brian Kelly SM Kicking & Striking Reprimand
1944 Ray GRacie StK Kicking Reprimand
1944 Jack Broadstock Rich Hacking 8
1946 Les Meeks StK Kicking 8
1947 Stan Le Leivre StK Hacking 12
1947 Don Fraser Rich Attempted Hacking 8
1950 Kevin Curran Haw Atempted Kicking 4
1950 George Caris SM Kicking 8
1951 Jim Norman Geel Kicking 6
1952 Tom Mc Neil StK Attempted Kicking 2
1953 Mick Gambaue NM Kicking 8
1953 Jack O'Rourke Rich Kicking 6
1953 Dave Bland StK Kicking 8
1955 Colin Holt Carl Kicking 8
1957 John Chick Carl Kicking 8
1959 Noel Teasdale NM Kicking 8
1962 Graham Cooper Haw Kicking 8
1963 Gordon Hynes Geel Kicking 8
1963 David Rogers Carl Kicking 8
1965 Wayne Closter Geel Kicking 2
1966 Tony Jewell Rick Attempted Kicking 4
1968 Tony Polinelli Geel Kicking 4
1968 Bob Pascoe StK Kicking 11
1969 Paul O'Brien Fit Kicking 4
1985 Jim Krakuoer NM Kicking 6
1986 Peter Foster Foot Kicking 3
1990 Nicky Winmar StK Kicking 10
1996 Billy Brownless Geel Kicking 4
1996 Peter Dean Carl Kicking 4
1996 Daryl White Bris Kicking 2
1997 Simon Beaumont Carl Kicking 3
1997 Ron Delulio Carl Kicking 4
1997 Wayne Schwass NM Stomping 4 (missed finals and never player for the Roos again)
KICKING LADDER
Carl: 9
StK: 7
Nth Melb 7
Geel: 5
Rich: 5
Coll: 3
Foot: 3
Haw: 3
Sth Melb: 3
Ess: 2
Fit: 2
Melb: 2
I dont have the records from 1999 onwards, but here's a brief synopsis........
First kicking charge sustained was against Bill McGee (Sth Melb) who got 3 weeks. Our very own Bill Burns was next in 1909 and recived 46 weeks! Apparently he was a much better kick than McGee.
What is it with Irishmen in Carlton jumpers.........1914 - Patty O'Brien: Kicking - 13 weeks "I didna"!!!
CONSISTENCY...........
In 1925, Harold Johnson of Nth Melb was reprimanded for attempted kicking. His Team mate must have been quite releived about this as he then went in on the same charge "attempted kicking", however he came out with a 99 week suspension!! One wonders if he may have de-flowered the chairman's daughter at some point to deserve that!
Interestingly if you look at the record of this sort of charge, kicking was happening quite consistently, until the end of 1969.
From then until 1985, no kicking charge was sustained. However the charge against Jimmy Krakauor in 1985 opened the flood gates and kicking became fashionable again.
Bear in mind Syd Jackson was let off a kicking charge in 1972 that would have seen him miss the finals. Syd's defense was that he was racially abused. The opponent never forgave Syd for this allegation and swore black and blue (pardon the pun) that it was an absolute lie. In latter years, one of the Carlton officials at the time admitted the story was concocted to get Syd off the charge and allow him to play in the GF
1904 Bill McGee SM Kicking 3
1909 Bill Burns R Kicking 46
1914 Patty O'Brien Carl Kicking 13
1915 Joe Shortill Carl Kicking 3
1923 Ted H Thomas Melb Attempted Kicking 8
1924 George Clayden Coll Kicking 4
1925 Fred Ulbrick Foot Attempted Kicking 4
1925 Harold Johnson NM Attempted Kicking Reprimanded
1925 Fred Rutley NM Attempted Kicking 89
1927 Norm Cockran Fit Retaliating & Kicking 10
1928 Wally Warden Foot Kicking 22
1930 Jack Bevridge Coll Kicking 8
1931 Bill Muir Coll Attempted Kicking 8
1931 Tommy Downs Carl Kicking 29
1934 Jack Smith NM Attempted Kicking 6
1934 Keith Forbes Ess Attempted Kicking 4
1936 Charlie Longhurst Melb Kicking 8
1936 Ted Bryce Ess Kicking 18
1939 Gordon Waters Haw Attempted Kicking 6
1944 Brian Kelly SM Kicking & Striking Reprimand
1944 Ray GRacie StK Kicking Reprimand
1944 Jack Broadstock Rich Hacking 8
1946 Les Meeks StK Kicking 8
1947 Stan Le Leivre StK Hacking 12
1947 Don Fraser Rich Attempted Hacking 8
1950 Kevin Curran Haw Atempted Kicking 4
1950 George Caris SM Kicking 8
1951 Jim Norman Geel Kicking 6
1952 Tom Mc Neil StK Attempted Kicking 2
1953 Mick Gambaue NM Kicking 8
1953 Jack O'Rourke Rich Kicking 6
1953 Dave Bland StK Kicking 8
1955 Colin Holt Carl Kicking 8
1957 John Chick Carl Kicking 8
1959 Noel Teasdale NM Kicking 8
1962 Graham Cooper Haw Kicking 8
1963 Gordon Hynes Geel Kicking 8
1963 David Rogers Carl Kicking 8
1965 Wayne Closter Geel Kicking 2
1966 Tony Jewell Rick Attempted Kicking 4
1968 Tony Polinelli Geel Kicking 4
1968 Bob Pascoe StK Kicking 11
1969 Paul O'Brien Fit Kicking 4
1985 Jim Krakuoer NM Kicking 6
1986 Peter Foster Foot Kicking 3
1990 Nicky Winmar StK Kicking 10
1996 Billy Brownless Geel Kicking 4
1996 Peter Dean Carl Kicking 4
1996 Daryl White Bris Kicking 2
1997 Simon Beaumont Carl Kicking 3
1997 Ron Delulio Carl Kicking 4
1997 Wayne Schwass NM Stomping 4 (missed finals and never player for the Roos again)
KICKING LADDER
Carl: 9
StK: 7
Nth Melb 7
Geel: 5
Rich: 5
Coll: 3
Foot: 3
Haw: 3
Sth Melb: 3
Ess: 2
Fit: 2
Melb: 2