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Palmer's Top 50

Tigers of Old said:
32. Jack Regan (Collingwood)
196 games, 3 goals

33. Edward 'Carji' Greeves (Geelong)
124 games, 17 goals

39. Herbie Matthews (South Melbourne)
191 games, 17 goals

44. Ivor Warne-Smith (Melbourne)
146 games, 110 goals

I think even Scotty "keep punchin'" Palmer is not old enough to have seen these guys play!!
 
What I find interesting about this subjectivity is the bases on which these ratings are made.

What makes these ratings better or worse than someone else's ratings?

What is the quantitative/qualitative model that validates this Top 50? Gutfeel? Premierships? Games Played? Goals kicked? What weightings have been given to these?

My guess is that "gutfeel" was the predominant factor.

Until validated models are created, whether is be an "All-time" Top 50 or a Draft Top 50, the credibility of these are always going to called into question.
 
Phantom said:
What I find interesting about this subjectivity is the bases on which these ratings are made.

What makes these ratings better or worse than someone else's ratings?

What is the quantitative/qualitative model that validates this Top 50? Gutfeel? Premierships? Games Played? Goals kicked? What weightings have been given to these?

My guess is that "gutfeel" was the predominant factor.

Until validated models are created, whether is be an "All-time" Top 50 or a Draft Top 50, the credibility of these are always going to called into question.

Ultimately, I don't think it is possible to create a valid measure of "the greatest player", primarily because I don't think there is an underlying dimension of "greatest player" to uncover. Is there even an unwavering definition of "greatest player"? Even to do that is subjective. Just look at the disagreement already in this thread.

We may be able to come up with some model that approximates some subjective and arbitrary definition of "greatest player", however it will remain forever subjective.
 
Mr Pumblechook said:
Ultimately, I don't think it is possible to create a valid measure of "the greatest player", primarily because I don't think there is an underlying dimension of "greatest player" to uncover. Is there even an unwavering definition of "greatest player"? Even to do that is subjective. Just look at the disagreement already in this thread.

We may be able to come up with some model that approximates some subjective and arbitrary definition of "greatest player", however it will remain forever subjective.

Without shadow of a doubt Ablett Snr was the best individual footballer to ever put a boot on.
The guy would have been a freak in any era.
 
blx said:
Alot of older players endorse Laurie Nash as the most natural and talented footballer. Its such an intangible.

My Grandfather, as one eyed Richmond as they came, rated Nash better than any player period. He always used to tell me, while instilling/drilling a love of the Tigers in to me, that as good a player as any Tiger has been, we have never had a player half as good as Nash.

From what he told me about the great LJ, I think it is a crying shame we can only read about his exploits. But 18 goals against the Croweaters in an interstate game, that is some player.